Sen. John Edwards set to quit Presidential Run (Breaking News)

I'm not sure how that's the case. If the candidates are speaking to a Latino audience, they are going to talk about strengthening Latino communities as well. When talking to labor unions, you're going to talk about who is strongest at helping labor unions, etc.

Nowhere here does (Michelle) Obama try to divide the two races. Racial politics is about trying to create a racial split. I don't see how this does that.

 

Yes I do

Context is everything

Hillary was tying to create a wedge issue without appearing to play the race card.

Michele was speaking to an audience of black women about black issues.

 

if bill clinton went in front of a black audience and said, "i will fight discrimination, racial profiling, etc., because I'm the best candidate to do so" when he was running against bush, no one would make a fuss about it. and hotballa is flat out lying when he says obama's wife said vote for him because he's black.

 

and what Michelle said wasn't playing the race card? She told them to vote for him because he understands them better because he is black, and hillary and edwards isn't. how can you turn around and then say it isn't about race? Michelle told them to vote for Obama because he's black.

 

again, she never said this, but if you want to keep insisting or better yet lying go ahead.

 

Okay

I went back and read the quote again.

Nowhere is she saying to vote for her husband because he's black. She is saying that Obama has the best perspective of what issues are important to blacks.

Just like McCain has the best perspectives for vets or Romney has the best perspective for business people.

 

i odn't understand the position you're taking on this gabriel. i read her entire speech and portions of the speech sounds like it could come from Al Sharpton. obviously she's appealing to the group based on Obama's skin color.

yes she says vote for Obama not because of his skin color, but cmon, when you continualy emphasize skin color and racial discrimination issues, isn't that exactly what you're asking for? what makes him more qualified to do all those things that she spoke about? Edwards entire agenda has been about poverty. Clinton didn't get her previously overwhelming support in the black community overnight.

my litmus test for racial political speech is what the reaction would be if it came from someone of another color. how well do you think a speech like this from Bill to a group of white male voters would hold up? What if he spoke about the importance of property values, and argues against affirmative action, government aid?

 

yes because McCain is a vet

Romney is a business man

Obama is ...

 

the best candidate for black issues.

 

obviously you're not gonna say it

but i agree, he is the best candidate for black issues. at this point, he better win, because I'm pretty sure hillary will be hitching her wagons to the hispanic vote if she wins and wants to win reelection.

 

LOLOLOL ... do you even understand your own post?

McCain has the best perspective for vets because he is a vet.

Romney has the best perspective for business people because he is a business man.

Now, when it comes to Obama, he has the best perspective for Blacks because he is (or is NOT) what?

Seriously, I have not seen any candidate supporters that are as delusional as Obama's.

 

again she's addressing her audience. she says he will be the best candidate to for these issues that you are concerned about. if hillary goes up in front of women and says I will fight to break through the glass ceiling that prevents women from getting executive jobs I wouldn't have a problem with it. I wouldn't even have a problem with it if she said she is best equipped to do so because she is a woman. but that's just one issue, and its different from saying vote for me because i'm a woman.

because barrack could get up in front of an audience of women and say he will fight for women just as hard as hillary. just like hillary can refute obama and say she can fight these issue for blacks better than obama can.

but when you say "vote for me because I'm black, or I'm the "black" candidate then you start playing racial politics. michelle obama was speaking to a black audience addressing black concerns and she said her husband can address them better.

 

But what you're missing is the divisiveness aspect. If Hillary went to a women's group and said "I understand your issues", no one would think twice about it or think of it as gender-baiting, and rightfully so. The race-card issue is built on *creating divisions* - taking advantage of prejudices to create black vs white, man vs woman, etc. The rest is just the pandering that all politicians do.

 

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thats a valid point you make about hillary addressing a female audience, but the uproar isn't about gender politics right now, it's about racial politics. if you're building your campaign being the post-racial candidate, then I really don't think these kinds of speeches mesh with that.

she spent the entire speech talking about what it means to be African-American and then she tells them that Obama is the one who will fight all those racially charged issues. I'm sorry but seriously, that speech could have been written about Al Sharpton.

 

I thought you were sick and tired of the "old" political games. Well, reality hurts.

CNN headline again, Obama - "Edwards' cause goes on." He's not an opportunist, just happened to unite Edwards' supporters even before the news settled down. CNN is the usual "fair and balanced" (oops, maybe I mixed up), just happened to make a big deal of Obama's "positive" reaction, while totally ignored Clinton's voice.

The funniest thing is, CNN put in a photo in that article, when Obama was "joking" about "John, and his white male votes".

Isn't that refreshing new change of politics? The show is just getting more and more interesting. Maybe when all dust settles, media and democratic party are the biggest losers.

 

again I am not a fan of gender baiting either but this is about racial politics, which, in my opinion, Obama's campaign was clearly the initiator. how is it not divisive when you tell someone that you can do better for them because you're one of them?

 

Was it CNN or MSNBC that the report admitted to being unable to avoid rooting for Obama?

Anyway, it's all hilarious to me. Obama is using the race card just as much as Hillary is using it. She is subtlety trying to use it to undermine him by hinting that he may not be electable, etc. He on the flipside is reaping the rewards everytime it "appears" to be mentioned. As much as people say things like "Obama winning is a sign that racism is dying," Obama himself wants there to be racist things said, just like Hillary wants sexist things said. The more those things are out there, the more countersexism or counterracism momentum the candidate builds.

Why do you think Hillary had that plant at her early speech say the line that she replied to with "Sexism is still alive and well" or something like that?

 

Take it for what it's worth --

 

John Edwards seems like a nice guy. Like anyone in a high profile situation, I'm sure you could find some bad things to say about him, but all in all, I find I respect the way he has run his campaign the last two cycles, the way he has stuck to his point and message, etc. I couldn't think of a better time for him to bow out. Granted, if he endorses either candidate before Tuesday, it could seem political. And part of it will be. But with him, I truly believe, for the most part, it will be about endorsing whichever candidate he believes will truly help fight poverty, etc. In the end, he tried his hardest, and he'd need a Buffalo Bills vs. Houston Oilers type comeback at this point to get the nod. Best of luck to him.

...and I hope he endorses Obama!