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Sen. Inhofe Calls for Inquiry Into 'Suppressed' Climate Change Report

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  1. OddsOn

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    Sen. Inhofe Calls for Inquiry Into 'Suppressed' Climate Change Report
    Republicans are raising questions about why the EPA apparently dismissed an analyst's report questioning the science behind global warming.

    By Judson Berger

    FOXNews.com

    Monday, June 29, 2009

    A top Republican senator has ordered an investigation into the Environmental Protection Agency's alleged suppression of a report that questioned the science behind global warming.

    The 98-page report, co-authored by EPA analyst Alan Carlin, pushed back on the prospect of regulating gases like carbon dioxide as a way to reduce global warming. Carlin's report argued that the information the EPA was using was out of date, and that even as atmospheric carbon dioxide levels have increased, global temperatures have declined.

    "He came out with the truth. They don't want the truth at the EPA," Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., a global warming skeptic, told FOX News, saying he's ordered an investigation. "We're going to expose it."

    The controversy comes after the House of Representatives passed a landmark bill to regulate greenhouse gas emissions, one that Inhofe said will be "dead on arrival" in the Senate despite President Obama's energy adviser voicing confidence in the measure.

    According to internal e-mails that have been made public by the Competitive Enterprise Institute, Carlin's boss told him in March that his material would not be incorporated into a broader EPA finding and ordered Carlin to stop working on the climate change issue. The draft EPA finding released in April lists six greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide, that the EPA says threaten public health and welfare.

    An EPA official told FOXNews.com on Monday that Carlin, who is an economist -- not a scientist -- included "no original research" in his report. The official said that Carlin "has not been muzzled in the agency at all," but stressed that his report was entirely "unsolicited."

    "It was something that he did on his own," the official said. "Though he was not qualified, his manager indulged him and allowed him on agency time to draft up ... a set of comments."

    Despite the EPA official's remarks, Carlin told FOXNews.com on Monday that his boss, National Center for Environmental Economics Director Al McGartland, appeared to be pressured into reassigning him.

    Carlin said he doesn't know whether the White House intervened to suppress his report but claimed it's clear "they would not be happy about it if they knew about it," and that McGartland seemed to be feeling pressure from somewhere up the chain of command.

    Carlin said McGartland told him he had to pull him off the climate change issue.

    "It was reassigning you or losing my job, and I didn't want to lose my job," Carlin said, paraphrasing what he claimed were McGartland's comments to him. "My inference (was) that he was receiving some sort of higher-level pressure."

    Carlin said he personally does not think there is a need to regulate carbon dioxide, since "global temperatures are going down." He said his report expressed a "good bit of doubt" on the connection between the two.

    Specifically, the report noted that global temperatures were on a downward trend over the past 11 years, that scientists do not necessarily believe that storms will become more frequent or more intense due to global warming, and that the theory that temperatures will cause Greenland ice to rapidly melt has been "greatly diminished."

    Carlin, in a March 16 e-mail, argued that his comments are "valid, significant" and would be critical to the EPA finding.

    McGartland, though, wrote back the next day saying he had decided not to forward his comments.

    "The administrator and the administration has decided to move forward on endangerment, and your comments do not help the legal or policy case for this decision," he wrote, according to the e-mails released by CEI. "I can only see one impact of your comments given where we are in the process, and that would be a very negative impact on our office."

    He later wrote an e-mail urging Carlin to "move on to other issues and subjects."

    "I don't want you to spend any additional EPA time on climate change. No papers, no research, etc., at least until we see what EPA is going to do with climate," McGartland wrote.

    The EPA said in a written statement that Carlin's opinions were in fact considered, and that he was not even part of the working group dealing with climate change in the first place.

    "Claims that this individual's opinions were not considered or studied are entirely false. This administration and this EPA administrator are fully committed to openness, transparency and science-based decision making," the statement said. "The individual in question is not a scientist and was not part of the working group dealing with this issue. Nevertheless the document he submitted was reviewed by his peers and agency scientists, and information from that report was submitted by his manager to those responsible for developing the proposed endangerment finding. In fact, some ideas from that document are included and addressed in the endangerment finding."

    The e-mail exchanges and suggestions of political interference sparked a backlash from Republicans in Congress.

    Reps. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., and Darrell Issa, R-Calif., also wrote a letter last week to EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson urging the agency to reopen its comment period on the finding. The EPA has since denied the request.

    Citing the internal e-mails, the Republican congressmen wrote that the EPA was exhibiting an "agency culture set in a predetermined course."

    "It documents at least one instance in which the public was denied access to significant scientific literature and raises substantial questions about what additional evidence may have been suppressed," they wrote.

    In a written statement, Issa said the administration is "actively seeking to withhold new data in order to justify a political conclusion."

    "I'm sure it was very inconvenient for the EPA to consider a study that contradicted the findings it wanted to reach," Sensenbrenner said in a statement, adding that the "repression" of Carlin's report casts doubt on the entire finding.

    Carlin said he's concerned that he's seeing "science being decided at the presidential level."

    "Now Mr. Obama is in effect directly or indirectly saying that CO2 causes global temperatures to rise and that we have to do something about it. ... That's normally a scientific judgment and he's in effect judging what the science says," he said. "We need to look at it harder."

    The controversy is similar to one under the Bush administration -- only the administration was taking the opposite stance. In that case, scientist James Hansen claimed the administration was trying to keep him from speaking out and calling for reductions in greenhouse gases.
     
  2. B-Bob

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    ... annnnnnnd this can't be posted in one of the existing Global Warming threads (or one of the existing Inhofe/Dumkopf threads) because?

    EDIT: oh, I get it, because you're quoting Carlin again and he's been completely debunked in the other threads, as has Inhofe. Got it. Thx.
     
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    The data underlying the science behind global warming has changed dramatically since the early 2000's, and as a result, we need to refresh our current thinking on whether the earth is actually warming. Many of the scientists that Al Gore leaned on for advice during the late 90's/early 2000's have actually reversed their position, in light of the new data.

    The bottom line is that now that the actual debate is taking place, the science of global warming is FINALLY coming under scrutiny. The conclusions reached by Gore/et al are coming under fire, as the new data does not support their hypothesis.

    Making policy based on this scientific conjecture is sheer lunacy. Crippling our economy to chase this environmental unicorn is a crime.
     
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    Can you search the Fairbanks newspaper site for a source and provide it to us please?
     
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    Well, better then crippling your economy because it turns out most of your bankers are not even worth the paper their degrees are printed on.
     
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    i don't have posting privileges in global warming threads, but is this true??????? do you have a link to it???? can someone else explain it away??? are those who've reversed course on exxon's payroll??
     
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    FAIL.

    You link to a posting by a staffer on the Minority page of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee. Who's the Ranking Minority Member on that committee... none other than James Inhofe... and your link is yet another list of "scientists" who are deniers, a list that has been debunked many times. We've been down this road before in several threads...
     
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    My funniest memory on this topic is asking Jorge, who asserts there is a conspiracy, why there would be a global movement about "perpetuating" global warming. What does the scientific organization have to gain from it, logically speaking? To this day, he hasn't answered. I'd be interested in what he has to say about it.
     
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    OddsOn, a pattern is developing whereby you start threads for things that have already been posted in other threads. I suggest you pay closer attention.

    And for the record, Alan Carlin is an economist with absolutely no credentials to analyze the science. It is a sign of desperation when the climate change deniers have to hang their hats on the scientific opinions of non-scientists. If an insurance adjuster told you that you really didn't have cancer, and didn't need medical treatment, would you trust that medical opinion over that of the entire staff of MD Anderson?
     
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    The answer is easy. FUNDING
     
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    And why are they receiving this funding? What is the ultimate goal of this movement?

    Because, unless you provide me with contrary evidence, I have an inclination to believe their goal is to reveal scientific truths, no matter the consequences.
     
  14. OddsOn

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    Or maybe it warrants its own thread because its worth discussing...

    Or maybe a few other items are worth talking about?

    the fact that most countries who initially adopted the Kyoto treaty have abandoned it

    the fact that most of the scientists who were on the original UN council resigned due to the flawed science they were being asked to report. And then the UN still used their names to justify the study...

    the fact that politicians would pass a bill that NOBODY READ and is riddled with tax measures

    the fact that nobody even talks about the science anymore, only name calling and labeling by the proponents at those who oppose it

    the fact that in poll after poll most people just don't believe the global warming hype being pushed by the media and certain political groups

    This whole thing doesn't pass the smell test at all. The fact that these sneaky bastards are trying to force this through the congress should be raising red flags. Meanwhile Michael Jackson's death is a convenient distraction from the real murder occurring to the US economy if this bill is passed.
     
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    The powers that be that determine scientific funding lean overwhelmingly liberal. Holding a belief that global warming does exist gets you on the schit list with these liberals. It's that simple, friend.

    You are very naive if you believe anything else.

    Pursuing 'scientific truths' is the last thing that this global warming movement has been about. They have abandoned the scientific method in the process, made disingenuous use of the media and celebrities, and refused to debate the issues. Does that sound like an intellectully honest way of proving a point? Yeah, didn't think so.
     
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    Yeah, and why do these liberals hold these beliefs Jorge? Why are they dictating the pace of science to address these concerns? Is this all just one big ploy to destroy the oil companies of America? We all know liberals especially hate corporations. Perhaps this is their way of dismantling corporate America.

    Come Jorge. Entertain me. Tell me why the Democrats and Europeans are so hellbent on this global warming idea. I want to see some tinfoil caps.
     
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    So what about all the "scientists" who debunk the myth of global warming? And say it is a hoax and a sham, it seems pretty convenient that the proponents just dismiss their studies and theories. It also seems a bit predictable that when you question the science used by the proponents they cannot defend it but only revert to name calling and labeling as a classic diversionary tactic.
     
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    Well, seeing as how you are so boldly dismissing global warming in your thread, I would think the burden of evidence lies on you. As it is, in climate threads all over, me and several other posters have apparently seen our work go to waste in citing several well-referenced sources ranging from the Hadley centre, NASA and the IPCC that have never been addressed by anyone.
     
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    Inhofe should investigate the position of his cranium, currently lodged inside of his rectum

    Thank god the anti-science clowns are out of power. And will remain so.
     
  20. OddsOn

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    And don't forget these are the same "experts" who were running around like chicken little screaming "Y2K, Y2K, what are we going to do?"

    Or don't forget about the doom and gloom that was supposed to happen when welfare reform was implemented in the 1990s. People were going to DIE!!!

    Or during the 1980s when Reagan reduced capital gains taxes and income taxes and they were screaming about how this was going to shut the government down...

    Or maybe we should talk about the oil companies....you know the big business that you always here the congressmen railing against. To much profits, to much profits? Well what about the trillions of dollars in taxes the government gets from the oil companies directly and from the gas pumps of the consumers?

    Common sense say to buyer beware, and I am not buying what they are trying to sell.
     

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