Sell high on Lowry?

We can't net much for Lowry right now. He's tearing it up, but it's only been a handful of games into the season. Teams aren't going to jump the gun and offer anything of value for him right now. If we somehow make the playoffs under his leadership and surprise people in the first round, then we're talking major trade leverage. But, now? No.

 

I feel like he's stuck in the same bubble as Chuck Hayes. Lots of team want him, but nobody will give up assets equivalent to what he's currently worth to us. Which means its better to just hold on to him.

Also, speaking of Hayes, Lowry is now the only guy out there playing with passion on both sides of the court. If they deal him I'm not sure I could stomach watching this team for the full season.

 

I think Lowry is more along the lines of a younger Jason Kidd. Intelligent pass-first point guard who rebounds, plays D, excels in the fast-break, and is a clutch shooter. But you need to surround him with athletes who are quick and play solid D. Unfortunately, Lowry does not have such a cast.

 

I am not sure you understand the concept of "selling high".

You sell high on something who's value is artificially inflated, like the year when we started Battier and Ariza, and Brooks had to take on a disproportionate role on offense just to get us past 90. Some of us knew that he would never replicate those numbers on a better team with better offensive players, and since his only value was scoring, we advocated "selling high".

You can also sell high when another team is overvaluing your asset's potential, when you see him everyday in practice and know he sucks: ie Jordan Hill.

The point of selling high is getting rid of your assets when the market is inefficiently pricing them.

While Kyle Lowry may or may not ever be valued any higher than he is at now, there is no point in "sell high" on him, because there is a reason why he is valued this high: he is that good.

No one will ever sell high on Lebron. No one will ever sell high on Rose. Now Lowry is nowhere near as good as them, but no one is trading those guys for Lowry either. If a team wants to overvalue Lowry and send their superstar over, fine. Trading him just for the sake of trading him though, makes zero sense.

 

This, and I don't think people will ever offer equal value for him. He's a smallish guard that is great at things that people don't look for in a PG (rebounding and defense) but he isn't really a spectacular scorer. He gets his but it's not in an explosive/unstoppable fashion.

 

Exactly.

And further, the better Lowry gets, the less sense it makes to trade him.

Because if he becomes elite, then he will be a guy other stars will want to play with.

 

I think we could absolutely trade Lowry if the right package came up. I'll get blasted for this but I'd take Lowry any day of the week over Westbrook. In my mind the only PGs in the league better are Paul, Rondo, Rose, and Deron

 

Ha, everyone should look at the bottom of the page under Similar Threads. Both interesting and amusing.

 

I wish I could agree, but sadly, I feel like it's all about name recognition. I could tell you I have a Hyundai Genesis that's just as nice as your Mercedes, but everyone would laugh it off simply because it's a Hyundai. Kyle Lowry could match D Will or CP3 in their stats, but if you try to compare them, the average NBA fan, maybe even NBA players, would laugh at you.

 

I love Lowry -- he is not somene you sell high on.

Kevin Martin on the other hand...... sigh.

 

With Kevin Martin you find a fool and tell him you're selling gold?

 

The task of a GM is to put the best and most complementary talent on the floor together given a limited budget. That means you need to get very talented guys on the cheap. There are three types of contracts that generally do that: 1) Max contracts on real superstars, 2) rookie contracts of stars, and 3) players, usually on their second contracts, that have blown up but whose contracts were negotiated before they showed how good they are. The remaining types of contracts are relatively overvalued. This is just the product of collective bargaining negotiations where veteran role players have the most votes in the union, relative to the handful of superstars and the guys not yet in the NBA that will have to play in their rookie contracts.

To win a ship, we need someone with the first type of contract. It doesn't look like we'll have any of the second type any time soon. Kyle is the third type of contract. Given how little he's gonna get paid, unless we can get a veritable max player, there is no reason outside of going into full-tank mode to get rid of him.

 

Lowry is more like D-ron than Chris Paul.

I think Chris Paul is far quicker and a better passer of course. But Lowry is growing impressively. Who knows what his ceiling is.

But I would not trade Lowry right now. Because he may get even better than he is now. He is not Aaron Brooks. Lowry is a players that is strong, has defensive strengths, quick, can drive - and who's biggest weaknesses was creating his own show and his 3 point shot.

Both of those are improving. And that is very intriguing.

 

Meh.
I'd rather trade Dragic and try to get Norris Cole.

 

Don't trade Lowry under any circumstances

 

I wish there was an option to trade him for a Top 8 draft pick later on.

 

If he gets us Dwight, who attracts dwill, then trade him. Only if we get commitments from both of them to sign here. Otherwise, he is our franchise

 

so you think Kyle is top 5 in the West or the whole league?

 

I wish McHale would just leave him in in the 4th qtrs even in some blowouts cause he's sat a couple of 4th qtrs already and it's dropped his averages.