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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Apr 20, 2010.

  1. Batman Jones

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    You have never looked quite so foolish as you do pretending to have the moral high ground here.
     
  2. giddyup

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    You're smarter than this Batman. Not everything uttered can be reduced to Lie or Truth. Granted my ploy backfired because of TSchmal's insistence that he owes no one on the internet any respect, but my alleged "lie" was just a distraction to elicit a response that took four days instead of four minutes to get here... and even then it limped in.

    If I had really had testicular cancer fifteen years ago or if I had some cancer that will be discovered in two weeks, would I still be a ninny for bristling about his wishing cancer on me or anyone else?

    That is the internet void that TSchmal launched his missile into. He didn't know who it would hit because he doesn't know the possible targets.

    I served dinner tonight to a 50 YO man who got rectal cancer out of the blue. He's a smart, funny guy who now hopes to live long enough to see his 5 YO son get out of high school. There is nothing funny about that. My attempt was not at humor but at shaming someone into realizing the awfulness of their own thoughtless remarks.
     
  3. giddyup

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    kid
    2   /kɪd/ Show Spelled [kid] Show IPA verb,kid·ded, kid·ding. Informal.
    –verb (used with object)
    1.
    to talk or deal jokingly with; banter; jest with: She is always kidded about her accent.

    2.
    to humbug or fool
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    There is more to kidding than ha-ha.
     
  4. Batman Jones

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    Kidding isn't joking and a "deliberate misrepresentation" isn't a lie.

    Got it.
     
  5. giddyup

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    Why didn't you think about that before you wrote that awful thing you wrote?
     
  6. giddyup

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    Read the damn dictionary definition. Argue with that not me.

    Both language and life have more subtlety than you seem to be willing to allow.

    I'm searching here for an analogy in your work that might illuminate this: in your work, have you ever "lied" to someone to buttress their confidence at a particular juncture because you thought that would be the best and most responsible course of action?

    Was that a lie... or was it something else? A lie is when you steal money and tell everyone you didn't. A lie is when you cheat on your significant other and deny it and cover it up.

    Are those lies equivalent to my cajoling TSchmal about his ill-advised remark or your "lie" that encourages your actor to help them get past a place where they at stuck because you know they'll eventually come out on the other side?

    ... or do you just say "You sucked" to them? and are you restless if we say "You lied" to you when you try to get them through the difficult spot with a little creative but untrue compliment?
     
  7. Batman Jones

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    You're more slippery than Bill Clinton.

    Lying=not telling the truth.
     
  8. giddyup

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    You didn't answer the question. It's not a hard question.
     
  9. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    why in the world should we believe you?
     
  10. giddyup

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    You make no effort to understand what I was doing. It is/was a very cogent plan ruined by a guy who thinks he can be reckless on internet posting because he has no need to show respect. Got it.

    You all are either stupid (which I don't believe) or completely insensitive or just trying to raise my ire-- at which you will fail.

    Here's my friend's Caring Bridge site. If you know someone involved in a healthcare battle, this is a free service for family updating and guestbook encouragement: http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/bobbyhanlon/mystory

    I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that I should have lied and let the story of my cancer survival live on. Now that would be a lie!

    You guys can be as intentionally dense about this as you want-- at least I hope it's intentional! This is but another example of the back-slapping cadre of liberals ironically seeing the world in black/white rather than a plethora of colorful possibilities.
     
  11. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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  12. giddyup

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    child
     
  13. Rocketman95

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    coming from the person who makes the same arguments i made to my mother when i was 12 and caught in a lie. liar.
     
  14. Deckard

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    Sishir, you need to read more closely next time. It is a close family member (my surviving parent) and she has just begun chemo, with the outcome not assured at all.

    I'm speechless. There are people here who might have made up such a story about themselves and I wouldn't have been surprised, but in this case, I am stunned. How dare you lie about something so serious. A damned lie and I was foolish enough not only to believe it, not only to defend you, but to bring up a situation in my own family that is very upsetting and certainly nothing I would have ever mentioned here, had you not made what I clearly see now was an inexcusable lie. In short, go **** yourself.

    I keep thinking this board cannot reach a new low. I was wrong.
     
  15. vlaurelio

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    just admit you lied stupid a-hole
    reading 101

    lie 2 (l)
    n.
    1. A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood.
    2. Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression
     
  16. giddyup

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    I wasn't stealing cookies or cigarettes. I was using artifice to make a point in a discussion. I'm sorry that you can't or won't grasp the difference.
     
  17. giddyup

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    That's kind of how I felt when TSchmal made his remark. I've buried two friends since December who died from cancer. I have two friends currently struggling mightily with it. It's not something you wish upon anybody... even in trying to make a rhetorical analogy between private citizens and public officials.
     
  18. Rashmon

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    Is your name really giddyup, or is that a lie, too?
     
  19. rhadamanthus

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    I don't believe you.

    LOOOOOOOL but wishing death? That's cool.

    You're a twit giddyup. Good-bye!
     
  20. giddyup

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    You want obituaries? One of them was Richard Quick. I started a thread about it here. He was my youth swim coach and went on to NCAA championship coaching and Olympics.

    He was diagnosed and died within a year of a brain tumor.

    I didn't wish death on anybody. Some people did it through FaceBook. Back 8 years ago FB wasn't such a big deal or I'm sure the same phenomenon would have arisen against George Bush.

    It was TSchmal who wished cancer on me in a public statement. Did you even read anything or do you just come here to oppose me? :grin:
     

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