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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Apr 20, 2010.

  1. vlaurelio

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    fixed
     
  2. giddyup

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    Oh, yes you do. Get real Bruce Wayne!
     
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  3. giddyup

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    It was not a lie. It was meant to teach a lesson. I expected to be able to recant within minutes but he took several days to make any kind of amends...

    If I wanted to lie about it, I would never have told the full story, would I? ;)
     
  4. Batman Jones

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    One of my best friends died of cancer last year. Not a funny "joke."
     
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    Oh jesus. Now we're going to get another five pages on how giddy's lie wasn't really a lie.
     
  6. vlaurelio

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    howbout this?

    Originally Posted by giddyup
    I lied about cancer...
     
  7. rocketsjudoka

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    That's low.. I think its uncalled for for others to wish that you had cancer but that's pretty low of you to play on people's sympathy like that. As you said this is a site where we should treat people with respect and as such for the most part we are sympathetic to people's problems. Think about all the "Prayers Please" threads. Its pretty low though of you to say that you had a life threatening disease just to make a rhetorical point.

    Yes because you don't know if they are being truthful or just making something up.
     
  8. Depressio

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    First off, it's an INTERNET community. There's a distinct difference on how people can/will act when there's a wall of anonymity between them. I am respectful to those whose opinions I feel deserve respect, but I see no reason to respect someone who is claiming that hoping God "removed" the President is a "low form vernacular" for showing displeasure.

    Yes, they're displeased, but it's also wishing for someone's death. Period. To me, it doesn't really matter whether it's a public figure or not: it's a human being. Wishing for someone's death is a terrible thing to do, which is why my obvious joke was in poor taste. Contrary to myself who doesn't really hope for your death, the people on that Facebook fan page legitimately home for Barack Obama's demise; that is disgusting and anyone who doesn't share my disgust, as far as I am concerned, is wrong as deserves zero respect, especially on the Internet where there is a modicum of anonymity (I don't have to answer for almost anything I say to you).

    Again, it's the Internet. Do you think I would actually say that to someone in real life, even in jest? Well, maybe you do think that because you don't know me, but I'm well aware of the difference between disrespect on the Internet and disrespect to someone's face. You can be less careful on the Internet. What are you going to do, beat me up IRL?

    There seems to be a rampant problem on this forum of people thinking Internet discussions are serious business (see: DaDakota worrying about language that is covered up by asterisks). Get over it.

    So your next question is: if you feel the Internet isn't serious business, why apologize? My answer? Because while I don't feel respect is necessary on the Internet, I still feel it's a decent thing to have, and I didn't want to lose anyone's respect. Again, I don't care about your respect because I don't respect you, so I wasn't really apologizing to appease you.

    TL;DR, I know.
     
  9. giddyup

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    I've got two dying right now and I lost one a few months ago. I don't find cancer funny...

    I'm not the one who made the wisecrack. Talk to TSchmal. I'm the one trying to teach him a lesson about inappropriate remarks.
     
  10. giddyup

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    Wake up! I was no interested in anyone's sympathy. I was interested in TSchmal feeling like a heel for saying something so sordid. A few days later, he barely acknowledges saying something inappropriate but his real focus is on how I (or Batman's friend who died of cancer or my two friends currently battling cancer or my friend who actually died of cancer back in January) should feel about it.

    If I was interested in anyone's sympathy, I would let the mis-perception live on. I was waiting on TSchmal to make it right before I let him off the hook.
     
  11. giddyup

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    I rest my case, Your Honor.

    --- Perry Mason
     
  12. giddyup

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    It takes one post. It wasn't a lie. It was a deliberate mis-representation to make a point. I agonized over TSchmal's arrogant refusal to apologize that I had been waiting for. I thought it would take a few minutes instead of several days.

    When I got the best that I figured I could hope for, I unleashed the truth.... something totally unnecessary to do since I had a boatload of sympathy from the ClutchFans BBS.... ;)
     
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    Whether you played it for sympathy or not if you really have some friends or family dying of cancer you know its not something to be treated lightly. As for Tschmal's comment I didn't see it originally but as I said I think it was uncalled for.

    I understand this is all the internet and for the most part we don't know each other but at the sametime most of us don't appreciate lying or misrepresentation for rhetorical points. Consider how much grief New Yorker got when he changed his story about his ethnic background or Baylorbear.
     
  14. vlaurelio

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    misrepresentation=lying
     
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    Why you did it doesn't change the fact that it was a lie. Even if you don't think it was a lie(it was) it was dishonest. There is no reason to be a dishonest poster, especially when being dishonest about whether or not you have cancer.
     
  16. BigBenito

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    As I've said. BearFish is more honest.
     
  17. giddyup

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    This from a guy who calls himself Big Little Ben? :rolleyes:

    I should have just let the "lie" persist. I could have been swamped with candy, flowers and well-wishes.

    TSchmal's comment was egregious. I tried to show him that. He didn't/doesn't seem to care and would rather insist on the safety of his anonymity. If he had had a smidgen of decency to apologize this would have been over in minutes and been a non-event.

    Most of you self-righteous critics strangling over this object to anything and everything I might say so I'll take it in that light.

    I had nothing to gain and sought nothing to gain by this. If I did, I would have taken it to my grave.
     
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  18. vlaurelio

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    so you admit it was a "lie" but vehemently deny that it was a lie :rolleyes:
     
  19. giddyup

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    you're not too good with nuance are you?
     
  20. Depressio

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    I admitted it was in poor taste. I thought it was obvious it was a joke. You fibbed and said you had cancer. You've admitted it, too, was not the truth. But... have you admitted it was in poor taste, or was it simply implied?

    I know you really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really want an apology of some sort (I'm not sure why this is so important to you), but as I've said, you don't deserve one. In your effort to make some sort of rhetorical point, you made an equally egregious comment in poor taste, but haven't even admitted that it was equally bad.

    Oh well, it's cool man. Not everyone can come about it honestly. Stick to your game -- it'll get you far.
     

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