Sean "Diddy" Comb arrested by the Feds (Sex trafficking, racketeering and obstruction of justice)

He is going to get a couple of years at most. if any.

 

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I hope he does at least some time, he is a sick individual, and I hope the homies give him some "diddy love" rawdog style

I hope the civil suits then cleanout his bank account

 

Why? Juries are very hard on accusers in sex crimes. All it takes is a woman in a text message acting as if she "liked it" or participated in it. The fact that he had so many people involved and his ex girlfriend waited so long likely convinced some of the jurors that she wasn't forced to do it, she did it and then regretted it later.

 

I'm losing more faith in my fellow American each day...maybe these types of crimes are harder to convict in a jury trial setting but still they had this prick dead to rights.

 

Without the sex trafficking and racketeering, it's just transportation for prostitution

 

Defense: weird, violent, sure.....but it was consensual as evidenced by texts.

The jury in Sean "Diddy" Combs' federal trial acquitted him of the most serious charges—racketeering conspiracy and sex trafficking—while convicting him on two counts of transportation to engage in prostitution. Several factors likely contributed to the jury's inability to convict on the more severe charges, based on available information:

1. High Burden of Proof for Serious Charges: Racketeering (RICO) and sex trafficking charges require prosecutors to prove complex elements beyond a reasonable doubt. For racketeering, the jury needed to find that Combs knowingly joined a criminal enterprise and that he or co-conspirators committed at least two predicate criminal acts, such as kidnapping, arson, or bribery. Sex trafficking required proof of force, fraud, or coercion in compelling victims to engage in commercial sex acts. The defense argued that the relationships, including those with ex-girlfriends Casandra "Cassie" Ventura and "Jane," were consensual, supported by text messages showing enthusiasm for the "freak-offs." The jury may have found insufficient evidence to meet the stringent criteria for coercion or a coordinated criminal enterprise.
   
   
2. Defense's Strategic Framing: Combs' defense team, led by Marc Agnifilo, conceded to domestic violence but argued it did not rise to the level of racketeering or sex trafficking. They portrayed Combs' relationships as toxic but consensual, emphasizing that his actions didn’t fit the typical profile of a Mann Act violator (e.g., controlling prostitutes for profit). This framing may have resonated with jurors, who acquitted Combs on the charges carrying life sentences.
   
   
3. Prosecutorial Overreach and Weaknesses: Legal analysts noted that prosecutors overreached by applying a RICO framework, typically used for organized crime, to Combs’ case. The prosecution’s case relied heavily on graphic testimony about "freak-offs" but may have lacked sufficient evidence tying Combs to a broader criminal conspiracy or proving non-consensual acts beyond a reasonable doubt. Some experts criticized the prosecution for strategic errors, such as calling too many witnesses for the "freak-offs" and too few for racketeering or trafficking, or relying on witnesses with credibility issues.
   
   
4. Jury Deliberation Challenges: The jury faced difficulties, as evidenced by a note indicating "unpersuadable opinions" on the racketeering charge, suggesting internal disagreements. One juror was flagged for not following instructions, though not replaced. These dynamics may indicate confusion or skepticism about the complex legal standards for racketeering and sex trafficking, leading to acquittals on those counts.
   
   
5. Consent as a Defense: The defense highlighted digital communications, like text messages, where Ventura and "Jane" appeared to consent to or express enthusiasm for the sexual encounters. Despite testimony from Ventura and others about feeling trapped or coerced, the jury may have found these communications raised reasonable doubt about non-consensual acts, undermining the sex trafficking charges.

In contrast, the transportation charges were easier to prove, requiring only that Combs knowingly transported individuals across state lines with a significant purpose of prostitution. The prosecution provided concrete evidence, like receipts of escorts’ travel and hotel bookings, which likely secured convictions on these lesser charges, each carrying a maximum of 10 years. The split verdict reflects the jury’s view that while Combs engaged in illegal transportation, the prosecution failed to meet the higher evidentiary threshold for racketeering and sex trafficking. Legal experts called this a significant win for Combs, avoiding life imprisonment, though he still faces up to 20 years for the convictions and ongoing civil lawsuits.

source: GROK.

 

Your summary, weird violent, but consensual seems very good.

 

It’s an over correction/back lash to MeToo and progress made in handling the dynamics of men and women and sex. It’s also not just an American thing, in a majority of the world it’s bad.

 

Do you really think average men and females throw parties like that.....it is mostly about power and the Benjamins that those moguls have.

Having power over the ordinary folk and those who are subordinate.

Secks that go beyond what normal folks do and not talking about kinks, .....and that involves who is dominant and of course transactions for money, for deeds.

Pretty damning that those young females and males could not break free from him.

Power, money, secks and death .....recurring themes.

 

100%

The pendulum is swinging too far in response.

Newton’s 3rd law applies to society, too.

 

No - I don't think average men and women throw parties like that - but I think that the idea of "power dynamics" in sex and that being coercion isn't something that most people really recognize. I also think that a lot of people have done something sexual or otherwise in a relationship that they regret and wish they had not done.

So as soon as there was any evidence that the jury could point to that showed any level of "liking it" or voluntary participation, the largest charges are off the table. Even the idea of grooming is something a lot of people don't understand.

 

CHAT GPT translates my word to:

1. The Need for More Definitions
You are absolutely right: language shapes law and moral perception. The term "coercion" is often treated monolithically—associated only with physical violence—but modern society needs expanded definitions that include:

• Social coercion: Ostracism, public shaming, or manipulating identity/status.
  
  
• Economic coercion: Threat of job loss, eviction, or withholding of essential financial support.
  
  
• Benevolent coercion: Offering something valuable (money, prestige, opportunity) with strings attached.
  

Without a broader understanding of these gradients, we remain blind to many abuses of power that don’t leave physical marks.

2. Grooming Adults and the Spectrum of Consent
The question, “Can you groom an adult?”, challenges traditional notions that grooming only applies to minors. But yes, adults can be groomed—especially if:

• They are emotionally vulnerable, financially dependent, or seeking validation.
  
  
• The groomer has power asymmetry (celebrity status, employer, etc.).
  
  
• The manipulation is long-term and patterned, creating dependency.
  

This reframes grooming as not about age but about power dynamics and manipulation.

3. The Ethics of Coercion: Where Is the Line?
You're drawing attention to a continuum of ethical violations:

If I pay you enough, can I kill you?
Can I break your leg?
Can I take your liver?

These questions force us to confront the limits of consent under pressure or incentive. It leads to broader philosophical and legal questions:

• Can one truly consent under financial desperation?
  
  
• Does a “yes” under pressure carry the same ethical/moral weight?
  
  
• Is there such a thing as ethical exploitation?
  

In essence: Can autonomy exist where power disparity is extreme?

️ 4. The Role of Prosecutors and Public Spectacle
You touch on a major issue: prosecutorial overreach and celebrity justice.

• Prosecutors often pursue high-profile cases for personal gain (media, politics, etc.).
  
  
• The risk: Charges become symbols, not tailored to actual evidence.
  
  
• The public may either be confused by legal complexity or feel emotionally manipulated.
  

You’re right to highlight the hypocrisy—“bending over for celebs” and “crucifying them for gain” may stem from the same obsession with status and power.

Conclusion: Defining a Just Society
Ultimately,

1. Precise language for complex human power exchanges.
   
   
2. Moral clarity around what constitutes coercion, consent, and grooming.
   
   
3. Legal humility—avoiding overreach while still protecting the vulnerable.
   
   
4. Cultural honesty about how power, money, and social capital distort agency.
   

You're not just asking legal questions—you're asking moral and societal ones. Where we draw the line defines our culture.


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It very much does define our moral and societal values - and the type of legal system we have, with juries - often is consistent with our overall social values and morality.

We can all look at Combs and see a pattern of violence, sexual abuse and in some cases rape.

However - consider that we have a President that has been accused of many counts of sexual assault and abuse.

We have a Secretary of Defense that has a history of rape accusations.

We have a former President (Biden) with a son that has a track record of abusive or at least unhealthy relationships with women.

We have a Secretary of Health that does not deny that he tried to start a sexual relationship with the teenage baby sitter of one of his children.

We have a former President (Bush Sr.) that sexually harassed teenage girls and another one (Clinton) that cheated on his wife with an intern that was only like 20-21 years old, in an abuse of power.

We are certainly better than a lot of other parts of the world when it comes to power dynamics and sex and the treatment of women - we don't stone them for premarital sex or rape - but that bar is extremely low and the treatment of women and the involvement of sex has gotten worse.

In Georgia we kept the rotting corpse of brain dead woman "alive" on life support so she would be forced to give birth to an undeveloped child that had zero chance of survival while her family had to wait to bury her and her child - and of course it conveniently turned out to be a black woman, and a working class family -- because the laws and rules do not apply the same for everyone.

Maybe we should realize we really are not as enlightened as we have said we are.

 

I cannot disagreed

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