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Screw McHale and his Love for Ppat

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by FTW Rockets FTW, Apr 16, 2012.

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  1. Dreamin

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    Look when McHail wasnt playing Sammy D in the 4th, Denver werent playing any true bigs either. So yeah they smashed us in the paint, but we should have been able to smash them in the paint as well cause they didnt have Koufos, Anderson, Mozgov or Faried.

    They were able to keep us out of the paint without playing any true bigs or shot blockers. If they can do it with an enforcer on the floor, then we should have been able to keep them out of our paint without SammyD as well.

    Why can they do those things without a shot-blocker and we cant.
     
  2. heypartner

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    no matter how you slice it, the 4th Q was 30-28. They did not "smash" us overall. We countered everything they did in our own way.

    It was the 3rd Q with Dalembert when they "smashed" us, just like Sunday when Denver beat us by 18 in the 3rd.

    Dalembert is not winning our 3rd quarters...

    what?

    Denver was +26 in the 3rd Q these two games.
     
  3. RoxBeliever

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    why put that all on Dally?

    Situational basketball--Lawson was getting lay-up after lay-up. You don't do anything to counter that?
     
  4. heypartner

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    wtf...lawson made one driving layput in the 4th quarter. So, you people just invent reality out of your ass??

    It was actually Brewer who hurt us the most in the 4th...and Harrington.
     
  5. AroundTheWorld

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    Does it matter who it was...but they were getting layup after layup. And with Dally in there to protect the rim, that would have been different. So what if they would have tried to draw him to the outside. I'd rather have them try to beat us from the outside than just driving in and getting layup after layup all the time. Can't believe I stayed up to watch this crap. I was literally screaming at the screen for McHale to take out Patterson.
     
  6. wangliangzi

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    we also blame machale and Patrick Patterson in chinese forum
     
  7. Rockets Jones

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    If that is McHale's reasoning, Nuggets going small, then houston we have a serious problem. What kind of coaching is this? I still seriously believe he is tanking because earlier in the year when we lost, he looked depressed after losses like the 3 prior to this one (at least here we had the effort). Now he's all okay with it. There's absolutely no toughness that McHale brings, he's rather a Adelman version light - free flow offense, no defense, refuse to play bigs and not hold players accountable.
     
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  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Good coaches force the bad ones to play their style, Karl is a good coach.

    DD
     
  10. Scarface281

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    So, did the waitress go to the table next to yours?
     
  11. dreamshake09

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    What are you talking about? Haven't we been playing Scola and Pat to close out games en route to our current +.500 record? Why are you reinventing history? Do you really dislike McHale that much?
     
  12. RocketRaccoon

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    I hardly come here anymore because of the uncalled for hate by these older fans. Its very depressing...

    I use to defend DD but he lost his juju. Somebody got to him because he's not even fun anymore.
     
  13. dreamshake09

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    Even though Nuggets scored more points and more points in the paint in the 3rd quarter with Dalembert in "protecting the rim"? Even though we've been beating teams with our small lineup? Don't trust your eyes to tell you everything.
     
  14. DonnyMost

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    One positive that is severely overlooked from Dalembert/Camby, their blocks (and rebounding) create transition buckets that guys like Dragic, Parsons, Lowry, and Lee thrive on. Our half-court offense is not good enough to close out games for us. If we're not getting buckets off of turnovers, we're almost dead in the water. Plus, having Scola protecting the rim is almost a guaranteed trip to the free throw line for any opposing player who gets in our lane, and Patrick is a brick laying turnover machine now. It's just incredible to me that we continue to go with the Pat-Luis tandem, especially in crunch time.
     
  15. HMMMHMM

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    True. Weak side shot-blocking however also generally leads to more offensive rebounds for the opposing team.
     
  16. Samdogg36

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    Why go small because they do? Dont u think they did that to get dalembert out the game? I'm sorry but I believe the offense would've been fine with dalembert out there (no question defense)...he could had size advantage in post, threw couple dunks to get momentum and easily rebounded over them...stupid to leave him out when he was workin that hard, u could tell he wanted the win
     
  17. DaDakota

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    Yeah, I hate McHale, I think he is an awful choice, a bad one from the beginning and is proving to be horrible still to this day.

    His rotations suck, his lack of adjustments suck, his inbounds plays are pretty pathetic, and his lack of situational substitutions is piss poor too.

    So, yeah, I don't like him, I think we got screwed by hiring a crappy coach.

    Rarely do great former players make good coaches, the best coaches are all role players who had to find a way to work in the NBA....

    I don't like McHale and think he sucks as a coach...

    DD
     
  18. DaDakota

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    Maybe we have been around and hearing the same bull**** from management and realize what stagnation really is.....and it sucks that your favorite team is just spinning it's wheels feeding cupcakes to the ignorant masses in hopes of squeezing another year's attendence out of the same ole same ole.

    At some point everyone just says enough, and begins calling it like they see it.....

    That is where I am, sorry it bothers you RR....personally, I hope that Les sells the team and we get an owner in here that will worry more about wins and losses on the floor and less about them on the balance sheet.

    DD
     
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    I am fine with the small lineup. I am also fine with the mismatch reasoning. What I am not fine with is that there was no adjustment in crunch time to make a stop when Denver was getting to the hoop at will. Maybe the guys were tired and slow at the rotation. Maybe Denver started to get to the attacking mode when they were down by 5 points.

    Players are not machines. What worked well in another game does not necessarily work well in this game. What worked in the 3rd quarter does not necessarily works in the 4th. A player might be hot in the first half and cold in the second. You adjust by how the players and the opponent perform throughout the game, not just stick to some formula that "have been working" in the past.

    I would have been fine if Denver hit some difficult shots and beat us. But what they hit during the last few minutes of the game were not difficult jump shots but layups and open shots created by penetration.

    edit: To be fair, McHale did make one adjustment. He put in Lee when Lowry couldn't stay in front of Lawson. But that was a bit too late.
     
  20. jim1961

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    It would be interesting indeed to know what kind of input the assistant coaches are giving McHale. Do they all agree? Is McHale listening to them? Or for all I know, they are the reason we are doing these things. I dont know. But would like to.
     

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