SCOTUS and Affordable Care Act

Thanks. Hopefully people will learn something.

 

Child Care and Parental Leave
in the Nordic Countries:
A Model to Aspire to?

http://ftp.iza.org/dp2014.pdf

 

http://www.theglasshammer.com/news/...nder-equality-list-what-are-they-doing-right/

Nordic Countries Top Gender Equality List: What Are They Doing Right?

http://www.swedishwire.com/jobs/5736-fitch-affirms-swedens-aaa-credit-rating-

 

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jun2009/db2009064_666715.htm

 

http://gawker.com/5840024/

Ron Paul’s Campaign Manager Died of Pneumonia, Penniless and Uninsured

"You can't eat the orange and throw the peel away - a man is not a piece of fruit."

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-09-18/...melstein-debate-over-health-care?_s=PM:HEALTH

45,000 American deaths associated with lack of insurance

Believe in the sanctity of life? Prove it.

 

This post really brings the point home.

 

Throwing stones in a glass house.

says the guy with no insurance and thousands a year in disposable income. lol!

Massive expansion of Medicaid.

 

I mentioned this earlier that Ayn Rand went on Medicare when she found out she had cancer.

 

"We are all of us, weak at some moment in our lives. What we do in those moments reveals the deepest truth about who we are."

 

Did you actually read that article? I mean, yeah, the headline grabs you but did you read how they calculated 45,000 deaths? Kinda suspect.

I mean I get the point you're trying to make but the reality is, there are far greater underlying problems with the system, like:

 

The methodology seems sound to me. It's hard to design a natural experiment around the uninsured vs the insured, but they managed to compile enough historical data to make it sound research that can be extrapolated and expanded upon to come up with figures such as the aforementioned 45,000.

I don't really understand your second point as to this. Just because there are many things wrong with the system doesn't mean we shouldn't stop to try to solve one thing wrong with it; in fact, it suggests the opposite.

 

My only hope here is that this act is not viewed as the end all of overhaul desired by those critical of the disaster we have in the US system. Many people here seem to be celebrating this as a big success to 'fixing' the system but IMO further regulation and improvements should be tackled to truly improve the lives of those who look to the system to heal. I wasn't disagreeing, good start but much work remains to be done and people shouldn't be complicit with this decision.

FWIW, my back ground is in preventative health/nutrition/fitness and insurance. I can read both sides of this healthcare coin.

 

I don't understand why this ACA is such a big deal. In 2017 I believe, states can opt out if they can come up with their own plan if it's as good. The ACA is giving a lot of flexibility here.

 

1. Because it represents (even a slight) change.
2. Because it has been pinned on Obama (even though it is of course a piece of Congressional legislation.)

That's pretty much it.

 

“Today we should remember that virtually everything government does is a ‘mandate.’ The issue is not whether Congress can compel commerce by forcing you to buy insurance, or simply compel you to pay a tax if you don’t. The issue is that this compulsion implies the use of government force against those who refuse. The fundamental hallmark of a free society should be the rejection of force. In a free society, therefore, individuals could opt out of “Obamacare” without paying a government tribute.

“Those of us in Congress who believe in individual liberty must work tirelessly to repeal this national health care law and reduce federal involvement in healthcare generally. Obamacare can only increase third party interference in the doctor-patient relationship, increase costs, and reduce the quality of care. Only free market medicine can restore the critical independence of doctors, reduce costs through real competition and price sensitivity, and eliminate enormous paperwork burdens. Americans will opt out of Obamacare with or without Congress, but we can seize the opportunity today by crafting the legal framework to allow them to do so.”

Ron Paul

 

Hightop/meowgi, your delicious tears have sustained many a communist collective this week.

Keep it up....and don't forget, you lost this week, and you will lose again, because you are a loser....and when you lose, America wins

 

Its Socialism! Duh...

 

Why didn't the almighty Ron paul stop it in the first place?

 

It's unfortunate for him that this just isn't all theory. We've actually had all of this mandate stuff implemented in Massachusetts, and it's proven much of Ron Paul's theory completely false.

 

So long as they find a way to keep all the basic tenets of the ACA intact and find a way to fund it and keep it sustainable, they can even get rid of the individual mandate.

That being said most states won't find a way to draw more funds for their respective plans without keeping the mandate intact.