Scott Brown is owning the dems in the commonwealth state

Never mind that the poll (CBS News) showed exactly the same trend you see across the board nationally in polls that ask the same question. The initial opposition and drop in health care approval came in the summer time from the right (tea parties). The additional drop in the fall came from the left as things like the public option fell off the table. You even saw that here as some previous supporters of health care turned against the particular bill on the table (Howard Dean included).

But I guess if it doesn't fit what you want to believe, you just decide it's BS. Sarah Palin would be proud.

 

It is just like his opinion on global warming, he just "doesn't buy it."

 

Data? Facts? Pfffft. It was cold yesterday, that's what I KNOW.

I especially liked it when the CBO estimated the healthcare plan (in the House) would reduce the deficit by over $100 billion, conservatives scoffed saying it was BS. Then the CBO estimated a number for the Republican plan and they hailed it as the second coming of Jesus.

If it ain't what they wanna here, it's BS.

 

Chris Matthews didn't do a good job on that interview because if you are interviewing someone you should let them get a word in but I will agree that Dean's assertion doesn't make sense.

I am guessing that the polling data that Dean cited and what Major cited in an earlier post is the same poll. I am curious how the question was phrased. I can understand that voters can be irrational but I still find it hard to believe that a significant vote for Scott Brown was based on wanting a public option.

 

That makes sense in terms of depressing voter turnout of liberal voters but that still doesn't make sense in regard to voters who voted for Scott Brown.

If your interests are in having a public option and cracking down on corporations Scott Brown is going to make it more difficult to do so.

 

There were two multiple polls here. Here's the MA one:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/20/obama-backers-more-commit_n_429673.html

Here's a national one:

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/11/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6084856.shtml

It wasn't that people voted for Scott Brown to get a public option. Here was the piece from the MA election:

Taken from interviews of 500 Obama backers who voted in the Senate election and 500 Obama backers who sat out the election, the firm discovered that 18 percent of Obama backers who voted in the Senate race ended up casting ballots for Brown.

Of that group, 82 percent said they favored a public option for insurance coverage, with 14 percent opposed. Of those who sat out the election, 86 percent favored the public option, while only seven percent opposed it. The findings suggests that progressive arguments that disappointed Obama supporters deserted have serious merit.

So of the Obama voters that showed up, 82% of 18% voted for Scott Brown but supported the public option. Since there was no public option anyway, they may have opposed the health care bill. Or they may have disliked Coakley. Or they may be angry at Wall Street or whatever else. There's always some crossover vote, so this part isn't as big a concern.

The bigger issue is the people that simply didn't vote. Those were all people who supported the public option. Those are the people that the Dems should be worrying about. That's where they are losing.

 

And mid-term elections are all about getting people out to vote. November 2010 won't be about winning moderates, centrists or independents, it will be about each party getting their core supporters out to the polls without a presidential election.

 

But some people on the left apparently still cannot hear it.

Chalk that up to another case of deep denial.

 

it's very enjoyable watching these nutjobs meltdown because of scott brown's recent vote with regards to the jobs bill.

 

Yes. Yes it is.

 

Encouraging. One of the few GOP members willing to vote for what they believe is the right course of action. Perhaps this is why so many independents/liberals in Massachusetts voted for him.

 

the comments on his FB page are crazy...

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Scott-Brown/178795233167?v=feed&story_fbid=325681096282

 

I am at a loss of adjectives to adequately describe some of these people.

 

I heard the other day that Brown joined with 4 other Republicans to end a threatened filibuster on the jobs bill. Brown might very well be a true moderate Republican who won't vote straight party line. This also might be a sign that Obama's words in regard to the Republicans having a responsibility to govern and not just be the party of no is having an affect.

 

I'm sorry but it's just next to impossible for me to identify with the fans/members of the republican party as of late.

 

Who expected Brown to vote straight party line? He campaigned against the current health care bill and to help the economy. He is doing what he promised and what the people want. Republicans and Democrats continue to ignore the people, even after the Brown election and Bahy's decision.

 

so you admit that Obama and the democrats have done a real good job and are still continuing to do a good job on turning the economy around

 

Its alright. I felt the same about the dems for awhile now. Although my lefty wife is having some influence on me.....some.

Just rest in knowing that just because something has two sides, that doesn't mean one side is right, ahh, should I say "correct". It just means it has two sides.

 

I don't really identify with the democrat platform, if that's what you mean, but I'd wager the republican base is rapidly achieving a monopoly holding on the loud and disturbingly angry lunatic crowd.

 

Scott Brown is owning the repubs who put him in office.