Scolandry - the epitome of efficiency and productivity at Power Forward

The point is that you don't jump down somebody's throat just because you disagree with them, even if they are "always negative."

There is no forum rule about having to be positive all the time. This site is called ClutchFans, not ClutchCheerleaders.

As far as alwasy being negative, I searched for a few of my recent posts:

"Pretty much my exact thoughts. I voted for Ron but Yao and Alston (yes, Alston) were also deserving." - I even complimented Alston here!

"I'm pretty sure a Magic player tipped that ball out of bounds even though Yao didn't realize it." - during the Magic game, defending Yao, not a negative post

"Maxwell's reaction was strikingly similar to Artest's against Dallas (I think it was Dallas).

Or, I guess more appropriately I should say Artest's reaction was similar to Maxwell's." - complimenting Artest and Maxwell

"Rafer looks good tonight." - another Rafer compliment from the Dallas game!! I'm actually disappointed in myself.


So, I do throw in a few positive comments here and there but it shouldn't matter. You don't start talking trash to people just because you disagree with them. I'm pretty sure that's the stance that Clutch takes.

 

Yeah, our three PF all have weaknesses, but actually they have solved our PF problem, this problem had suffered us too many years.

This data statistics is perfect,our PFs do great job..

 

nice pic. But is that a dunk or a block?

 

Landry started the season a bit slow but is slowly showing why we kept him. he and Scola just need to improve their defense. not forgetting its only their 2nd season in the League they still have plenty of room for improvement. Good thread to show our appreciation to our PF including Hayes

 

I guess you've watched too many Allen Iverson dribble moves to keep a eye on what really goes on with the and the rox. To say the rox don't have problems against pf's is a joke in itself. Go look at dirk,gasol, aldridge,kg and the list goes on and on. Adelman has to bring a non offensive player like hayes to defend those guys. So yes they do have a problem gaurding tall atheltic types.

Next, Camby is agood defender on and off the ball. He's playing center when he's really a pf. You don't luck into dpoy without playing with passion and intensity. If he were on a better team defense like the Rox, he wuld probably win it multiple times. Its not just the blocks or steals eithe®he takes chanrges also and he is the perfect guy to play next to Yao. Why? Because he's quicker to react to action at the goal. He's erases shots after guys are beat. Offensive players don't care that a 6'6 guy is a good positional defender once they get into the lane, but they are looking for that guy who can erase shots.

Finally, I don't see camby shooting 20 fters. I do see him shoot open 15 fters and hit them. I also seen him playing defense, rebound and hustling eventhough he knew Iverson and Carmello never passes the ball. You think he would wouldn't finish those same plays scola does. The way he plays and his skillset is perfect to play 32 mins a night as a starter. That way when you bring Landry in, he can slide over and give yao a rest and the team would still have a shot blocker out there. Then bring yao back in and he sits and they still have a 7 ft er out there.

I think the rox are fooling themselves if they think they can defend Gasol or Odom with landry,scola, or hayes.

I always say, be a student, not a fan.

 

Nice pic of Scolandry, but what about the Chuckster?
That should be a three headed monster!

 

I wasn't serious about you being an imbecile. It just somehow felt good to say it. Sorry about that. LOL.

 

According to 82games.com, the Rockets PER difference for the PF position ranks only 11th in the league. So our PER at PF is the highest of any position on the team, but our opponents PER is also highest at the PF, C positions. So our forwards are as efficient as any superstar/backup in the league, but defensively we still aren't protecting the basket well enough. Obviously, we need size and shot blocking.


Houston Rockets
08-09
Ranks (Net)


POS PTS FG% Reb Ast T/O FTA PER Opp Per Difference Rank
PG 6 3 29 27 13 17 15.5 14.9 13
SG 25 25 19 7 4 20 14.9 16.6 19
SF 3 9 17 6 16 4 12.5 7.9 7
PF 18 9 12 14 9 19 19.2 17.5 11
C 10 24 11 13 28 8 17.4 19.6 20



Just for comparisons sake, here are the highest ranked PER numbers for other PF, Cs around the league.


PF
1. Cleveland Cavaliers: 23.4 (1st in PER difference)
2. Utah Jazz: 21.3 (4th in PER difference)
3. Washington Wizards: 21.3 (6th in PER difference)
4. San Antonio Spurs: 20.2 (8th in PER difference)
5. Dallas Mavericks: 20.1 (2nd in PER difference)
6. Houston Rockets: 19.2 (11th in PER difference)
7. Pheonix Suns:19.0 (1st in PER difference)
8. Miami Heat: 18.6 (20th in PER difference)
9. LA Lakers: 18.5 (3rd in PER difference)
10. Atlanta Hawks: 18.5 (5th in PER difference)
11. Toronto Raptors: 18.5 (12th in PER difference)
12. Detriot Pistons: 18.5 (17th in PER difference)
13. New Orleans Hornets: 17.8 (10th in PER difference)
14. Boston Celtics: 17.6 (9th in PER difference)






C
1.Orlando Magic: 26.9 (5th in PER difference)
2. Pheonix Suns: 25.7 (7th in PER difference)
3. Toronto Raptors: 23.9 (3rd in PER difference)
4. LA Lakers: 23.1 (2nd in PER difference)
5. Golden State Warriors: 22.0 (15th in PER difference)
6. New York Knicks: 20.2 (9th in PER difference)
7. Cleveland Cavaliers: 20.3 (4th in PER difference)
8. Denver Nuggets: 20.3 (6th in PER difference)
9. Minn T-Wolves: 19.8 (7th in PER difference)
10. Portland Trailblazers: 19.3 (18th in PER difference)
11.Utah Jazz: 18.0 (8th in PER difference)
12. Los Angelas Clippers: 17.9 (13th in PER difference)
13. Indiana Pacers: 17.6 (17th in PER difference)
14. Houston Rockets: 17.4 (20th in PER difference)
15. Memphis Grizzlies: 16.9 (11th in PER difference)
16. Sacramento Kings 17.1 (16th in PER difference)
17 New Jersey Nets: 17.4 (14th in PER difference)


all values taken from http://www.82games.com/0809/BYPOSIT.HTM

 

Our PF situation has been one of the best in many years and more years to come too.

Our pg still remains to be the biggest hole follow closely by Center.

 

According to PER, we really need a backup center more then any change at PG.

 

PF is probably the only position on the Rockets team where I don't really see a change.

PG-You Know what I mean
SG-Backup for the Mac
SF-Seems okay as well
PF-No Change
C-Backup C

 

Cool!

And to be honest, I do take a generally negative, half-empty outlook on things. I can see how that can get annoying.

On a "positive" note, the fact is that we are far better off at PF than a few seasons ago. Morey has done a good job in limited time with limited resources but I strongly believe we need more frontcourt length, regardless of how Morey seems to still be downplaying the importance. He may just be posturing so we don't seem desperate.

 

Getting Camby would be phenomenal. Not only is he long and a good defensive player/rebounder but he is also versatile enough to play the 4 or 5. As you stated, we could play him next to Yao or move him to the 5, allowing Scola or Landry to stay at their true position.

He also is not a low post player, which perfectly complements Scola or Yao. With Scola or Yao in the low post, Camby can play in the high post, make good passes and put back offensive boards.

On top of that, he has an extremely favorable contract (2 yrs at roughly $8 million per), so he wouldn't handicap us budget-wise.

Are there any rumors that the Clippers are willing to part with him now that they have Kaman and Randolph?

I really can't think of a more ideal acquisition than Camby.

 

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Houston Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -4.8 ppg, +6.0 rpg, and -4.0 apg.

Incoming Players
Marcus Camby
6-11 C from Massachusetts
9.9 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 1.7 apg in 28.5 minutes
Outgoing Players
Joey Dorsey
6-9 PF from Memphis
0.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 2.5 minutes
Luther Head
6-3 PG / SG from Illinois
4.8 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 1.0 apg in 14.5 minutes
Steve Francis
6-3 PG / SG from Maryland
No games yet played in 2008-2009
Rafer Alston
6-2 PG from Frenso State
9.9 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 4.7 apg in 31.8 minutes


...and cash to the Clippers...and perhaps a 2nd round pick.

Would leave us very thin at the PG position, but...I'd do it...and pick up some PG later.

 

^^^

I like the idea of getting Camby but a few questions about that offer:

1. What would the Clippers do with the extra bodies? You could send Mike Taylor to the D-League but doesn't that still count toward the 15-man?

2. I'd be interested to see Brooks forced into the starting role to see how he and the team respond, but who would back him up? I guess we could bring back Strawberry.

3. How much money would we save/add in that deal? If we don't save money, we can't afford to sign players and we'd only have an 11-man roster.

Edit: I added up contracts and it seems like we would be cutting a few hundred thousand but we would need to add 3 or 4 players to fill out the roster.

Also, what is Camby's actual salary this season? I'm seeing different numbers on different sites.

 

LOL