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Scolandry - the epitome of efficiency and productivity at Power Forward

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Lovemachine2000, Nov 23, 2008.

  1. fmullegun

    fmullegun Contributing Member

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    Scolandy has nothing on these guys!

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  2. thacabbage

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    With Hayes included, this is far and away the most consistent power forward production the Rockets have gotten on both ends of the court since Otis Thorpe's 1992.
     
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    If you want to combine their production, it would probably make more sense to take the average of their per-minute production, rather than sum up their per-game production.

    For the season:

    Scola: 26.1 mpg, 15.9 pts/36min, 8.9 reb/36min
    Landry: 20.2 mpg, 15.4 pts/36min, 9.2 reb/36min

    So, per 36 minutes, weighting Scola's number a little more because he plays more minutes, Scolandry gives you 15.7 points, 9 reb, 1.4 asts, 1.7 tov, and a 58.0 TS%.
     
  4. Lovemachine2000

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    Wherever Bowen got his haircut, he should ask for a full refund.
     
  5. BrooksBall

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    I think the haircutter was from Utah.
     
  6. fmullegun

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    What?

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    You forgot that Scolandrayes has 18 fouls a game.....
     
  8. Dave_78

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    Scolandry is something we could have only dreamed of 2-3 years ago. Great production and fantastic bang for Les' buck.
     
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    Not to mention their defensive intensity is great. Our record would be abysmal without these guys.
     
  10. Vivid

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    Not just "more complete" PFs but star PFs. That is what I think makes it incredible... from a moneyball salary vs. performance persceptive. Take Duncan and his primary back up Bonner, they combine for 52 minutes at 26.5 ppg 13.7 rpg 3 topg at 25 million a season. We get 21/11 (80 percent of production) at a 4th of the cost. By comparison take Yao and Hayes vs. Thomas and Oberto. The Rockets C tandem average 48 min at 19 ppg and 14 rpg making 17 million vs. 38 min at 4 ppg 6 rpg for 8 million. Almost half the cost for 2/3 the playing time and 1/3 the production. Anyways... go Scolandry. (I think you are right, by themselves they aren't great... but together they can almost match our opponent's greatness, at a great discount)
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  11. BackNthDay

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    Im more impressed with Carl's game than Scola's. Scola does some dumb stuff on the court.
    * He makes his mind up to shoot whether or not he's open, for example, driving into the paint with no where to go.
    * Unnecessary fouls in the paint. Take a charge sometimes like Chuck.
    * Pulling the jumper outside his range
    * 1 dunk this year, Landry tries to dunk everything in the paint

    What I like about Scola
    * Dude hustles all day long like the clock on the wall
    * Rebounds with toughness
    * Runs the floor - only Artest hits him with the deep pass

    Together though, they are GOLD. I would like to see Scola play backup center and use his crafty post up game against back up players.
     
  12. Lovemachine2000

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    Scola is white... and he's no David Lee or the old Brent Barry. He can't go up strong, but he's quite a crafty finisher around the basket, adding some Euro flair to our team.

    Scola has no size, quickness, nor strength to match up opposing centers, even if they are 2nd, 3rd string or more washed up than Eddy Curry (OK, maybe Scola can handle Curry, but that's about it). We still need a back up 5 with solid size, but in the mean time, having Hayes work his ass off on defense when Yao's resting is our imperfect solution.
     
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    The combo has played well. They all have holes, but they're effective. That being said, I would give up Scola and others to get camby who would complete this team.
     
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    Marcus Camby: 9.9 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 2.5 bpg, is paid $10 million this year according to ESPN. And you want to trade Scola and other players for him??!!

    Seriously, I thought you haven't been pleased with Yao's performance so far, then why the heck would you trade for a soft player with no offense whatsoever? And don't even tell me Camby is a great defensive player, his man-on-man defense is only average, and he gets all his blocks from weakside help. And how are we going to utilize this $10 million man once we trade for him? play 15 minutes behind Yao?

    People who want to get Kaman or Camby really don't know what they are talking about.
     
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    i tried putting together our PGs, and i stop when i realised that combo will meant a jumping jack that is crippled and cant score....
     
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    Scola takes charges all the time.

    Oh, and BrooksBall is an imbecile.
     
  17. leebigez

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    1st off I'm not going assume you only watch camby when he plays vs the rox. There isn't anything either of the rox current pf do better than camby. Offensively or defensively. Camby is exactly the type of guy to play next to Yao as a
    Starter.

    He's atheletic enough to play against every pf the rox play against without help. That last statement without help is huge. He's a good defender on and off the ball. He has great instincts when it comes to rebounding,shot blocking and passing. He has the 15 shot which is essential.

    So what he makes 10m by espn standard while hoopshype says 8m. Either way, you're going to have to play the Lakers if you want the ring. There isn't anyone in there right mind can say the rox can beat that team in 7 games with our 4 combination. Camby gives the rox flexibility to play other teams 4 men 1 on 1 which is huge. When every player can defend their position, it makes your defense awesome. How do we get to 10m? All you have to get to is 8.5m. That's not hard to get to at all.

    If you think I don't know what I'm talking about, well you must don't read this board enough.
     
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    Unfortunately (or fortunately) as an ardent Allen Iverson fan, I have watched my fair share of Nuggets games in the past one and half years. It is clear to me that both Scola and Landry are better offensive players than Camby. Camby's career scoring average is 10.7 while playing 30+ minutes per game, and at the age of 34, he's only going to decline. If Scola or Landry were to average 33 mpg, their offensive production would dwarf Camby's.

    What I don't understand is if YOU have watched Camby play extensively, how you can still claim that he is a good offensive player? The guy has ZERO post game and likes to shoot 20-foot jumpshots! That'll explain his career 47% shooting average, not that great for a 7-footer.

    And starting Camby alongside Yao is a bad idea. Besides having little scoring ability, Camby is also slow and lacks the passion and tenacity to complement Yao.

    In summary, the idea of trading for Camby fails.
     
  19. Lovemachine2000

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    Not to mention we don't have a defensive problem against opposing power forwards. If anything, it's against point guards and second-unit centers. Why fix something that's not broken?
     
  20. BrooksBall

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    Dude, let it go. You flipped out and started with the personal attacks after this post:

    That is my opinion. I wasn't trying to piss anybody off.

    What's up with the name-calling and reading me my rights just because you disagree with my "negative" attitude?

    I didn't insult anybody, at least not overtly. You are the one jumping down my throat and doing the internet name-calling.


    Take Clutch's advice on how to post in here (something you should know if you've been around since 2000):

     

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