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Schaub's little daughter, is that permanent?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Blurr#7, Nov 22, 2012.

  1. seeingred

    seeingred Member

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    Nothing wrong with op's question, though a sports forum is a strange place to bring it up. you overly sensitive thread police can go ahead and quit lecturing. No one gives a **** . Glad to hear that its treatable, thanks for those who shared.*
     
  2. sugrlndkid

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    For Kids, strabismus is often first treated conservatively...ie with eye patches(yes like pirates)...for several hours a day...and if that doesnt work...then they consider surgery for correction
     
  3. mazinger

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    Wasn't that video old? I'm pretty sure that footage had aired a few years ago.
     
  4. rolyat93

    rolyat93 Contributing Member

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    Not the same. Schaub's daughter isn't even a public figure.
     
  5. Relentless

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    His wife is hot. That is all
     
  6. crash5179

    crash5179 Contributing Member

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    Rip,

    Were you diagnosed with strabismus? Surgery should correct the condition even if a second or third surgery is required. Muscles are detached and re-attached in a position to straighten out the eyes so it should work.

    I don't have the chart in front of me but there is like a 60% chance a 2nd surgery is needed, a 40% for a 3rd and so on and so on. However, those percentages are applied to people having their 1st surgery as an infant and exist in large part due to the fact that the eye will change shape as you get older. My daughter had her 1st surgery when she was 6 months and her 2nd and 3rd surgeries both when she was 7 years old. She is now 18 and has not required a 4th surgery.

    My daughter has continued (and will continue) to see a pediatric ophthalmologist that specializes in Strabismus even though she is now technically an adult. She has been fortunate enough to have had the same specialist through out her life although he is very close to retirement. He has warned us that while its ok to see a standard ophthalmologist for things like eye glass prescriptions but she will need to see a pediatric ophthalmologist that specializes in strabismus in order to manage her condition.

    Why a pediatric ophthalmologist for adults? Since the condition is normally detected and treated as an infant or small child, pediatric ophthalmologists have more training and understanding of strabismus. My daughters ophthalmologist has warned us that adult ophthalmologist regularly mis diagnose, mis treat and mis manage adults with strabismus because they are not as familiar nor do they have the training that pediatric ophthalmologists have with strabismus.

    I don't know what steps you or your parents have taken to correct your disorder so I appologize if I've stepped out of bounds. I just feel that I have 18 years worth of education on this. If you have not seen a pediatric ophthalmologist that specializes in strabismus I would suggest doing so.
     
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  7. Cannonball

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    He said he doesn't have any vision problems, so his condition is essentially cosmetic.

    When I started having trouble, my optometrist referred me to a pediatric ophthalmologist. This guy was a joke. Totally didn't comprehend what I was telling him. He was under the impression that my problem was a cosmetic issue. TMAC's strabismus is largely a cosmetic issue because while one eye might fly off every once in a while, he can bring it back into alignment and have normal vision. Anyway, the ophthalmologist didn't get that I had vision issues, not cosmetic issues, and refused to treat me. I got a referral to another pediatric ophthalmologist who understood there was a problem. We tried some non-surgical options and then I had 2 surgeries about a year apart.

    Like I said, they didn't work but vision therapy did. Surgery treats the problem on a muscular level, manipulating the muscles to make the eye point straighter. Vision therapy treats the problem on a neurological level, training the brain to point the eyes where they need to be pointed. Part of the problem with surgery is that the amount they cut or move the muscle is an educated guess and the surgeons err on the side of undercorrection so as to not have the eye swing in the opposite direction. This is why there's often the need for multiple surgeries. They play it conservative and undercorrect, necessitating further surgeries to completely correct the problem.
     
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  8. Duncan McDonuts

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    crash,

    Strabismus surgery is a tricky thing in adults. An adult has adapted so long to suppressing the strabismic eye, that if the other eye was corrected to be aligned, it might have its own vision.

    That sounds good, but your brain isn't used to seeing with two eyes. There is no developed binocular visual processing, and you might be see double vision once both eyes are aligned.

    Now that's not to say that strabismus surgery in adults can never work. It can. As you said, the best specialist to see is a pediatric ophthalmologist or a binocular vision optometrist. You'll generally see those two specialists working very closely together in a co-management situation. Any treatment will be a case-by-case evaluation because there are different types of strabismus and everybody's situation is different with how their eyes are aligned, how their muscles work, and how their brain can process the information.

    The general rule of thumb is don't fix it if it ain't broken. And not broken in visual perception means if you are functional for your needs.
     
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  9. crash5179

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    I hope my post was not taken as an attempt to talk someone to having surgery, if so then please understand that was not the intent. I only hope he is getting good advice and seeing the proper type of doctor. I have no clue how old Rip is or what kind of Doctors he has seen. Certainly any treatment should be a decision between doctor and patient not from some poster (me) on the bbs. My only experience is with my daughters condition and we are all extremely happy with the treatment she has recieved over her 18 years and we feel lucky to have gad the same doctor throughout that time. Rip may be very educated on the subject and already know everything in my precious post.
     
  10. Rip Van Rocket

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    Thank you for the response. And thanks to Cannonball and Duncan also.

    Yes Strabismus. I'm 52 and I had my surgical procedures way back in the early 60's. The surgery was somewhat new and almost experimental at that time as I understand. I had the surgery done right here in Houston by a leading eye surgeon of the day(Dr. Louis Girard). My younger brother had the same surgery and his was a success.

    As Duncan said, even if my eyes were perfectly straight, my brain can only concentrate on what I see out of either my left or right eye, never really both at the same time. That doesn't mean I'm blind in one eye or don't use both eyes, but my brain only really processes information out of one eye at a time. Here's something kind of interesting, I'm far sighted in my left eye, and near sighted in my right eye. If I don't want to wear my glasses, I just use my left eye for looking at things far away and use my right eye for things up close. I'm not even aware that I'm changing eyes.

    The only time I have any handicap is when watching a movie in 3D. I see nothing in 3D.

    Thanks for the responses.
     
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  11. josephnicks

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    what about schaubs wife.. her eyes look like...
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  12. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    So its okay to act like an ass about someone's illness only if they're a public figure. That's where you draw the line apparently.
     
  13. sugrlndkid

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    Big fan of schaub...so this is just in fun...some may get the joke

    starting left to right:
    1. exopthalmus
    2. strabismus
    3. ptosis
     
  14. rolyat93

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    Royce acted like an ass first. He's a big boy I'm sure he can take an under 40 follower twitter account making fun of him. Schaub and his daughter didn't do anything.
     
  15. Grape_Swisha281

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    ding.ding. winner
     
  16. Grape_Swisha281

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    Royce is old enough to defend himself and caused his own problems
     
  17. sugrlndkid

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    schaub has a gorgeous wife ...and beautiful kids... but humans on the web can be quite cruel...
     
  18. Eric Riley

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    Yeah I'm sure the OP meant no harm, but this is a thread that should not have been started.
     
  19. Grape_Swisha281

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    im sure he meant no wrong either but this thread could have went terribly wrong. world wide thugs are ruthless and disgusting
     
  20. NewRoxFan

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    I had/have bilateral strabismus and had two operations, on one eye at 11 and both eyes at 18. They also tried prism lenses.
     

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