Schaub's Foot Injury... (UPDATE: Schaub out for the season)

Raven · Nov 14, 2011

I still can't believe this has happened. It's surreal. Houston just cannot catch a freaking break.

ascaptjack · Nov 14, 2011

NFL.com is saying that he might not miss the whole season and may come back.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...not-out-for-season?module=HP11_headline_stack

Houston Texans quarterback Matt Schaub suffered what coach Gary Kubiak described Monday as a "significant" right foot injury against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and already has been ruled out for the team's next game.

Backup quarterback Matt Leinart will start when the Texans return from their bye week to face the Jacksonville Jaguars in Week 12.

Although Schaub's chances appear bleak, team and league sources said the Texans are holding out hope the quarterback, who's sidelined indefinitely, can play again this season and will exhaust all possibilities before making a decision to place him on injured reserve. That includes visits to other specialists, as one team official said the team is "still gathering data."

"It's disappointing, but we'll go to work and try to do the right thing by Matt," said Kubiak, who wouldn't say how much time Schaub will miss.

"There's a lot of things reported," Kubiak added. "He's going to be in a boot throughout this week, and then the evaluation process will continue."

Kubiak said the team was bringing in a specialist from Indianapolis to evaluate Schaub, and the quarterback would fly to Charlotte, N.C., later this week to undergo further examination.

The Houston Chronicle reported late Monday that Schaub is hoping the second opinion will help him avoid surgery to repair the Lisfranc joint in his foot.

At 7-3, the Texans have won four in a row and share the AFC's best record with the Pittsburgh Steelers. But the team would hesitate to place Schaub on injured reserve unless there was no chance of a return, perhaps even deep in the playoffs.

Kubiak said Schaub was injured on a quarterback sneak coming out of the end zone late during the second quarter of Houston's 37-9 victory over Tampa Bay. Schaub stayed in the game, but he threw just three passes.
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ascaptjack · Nov 14, 2011

Got this off of Texanstalk

We DO have to rally around this team right now. 100%. We have to believe that fate is not dealing us a death card...we're actually going to show the critics out there that the TEXANS have the best TEAM and we're not a one-man show like the Colts are.

We can lose our top defensive guy. We can lose another guy in Danieal Manning too. We can lose AJ, We can lose Foster. We can lose Schaub. But we're still going to beat YOUR ASS even without those guys. In fact, this year is the year that the "Texans are soft" label gets ripped up and shoved up Michael Lombardi's ass and the tattered edges that hang out of his ******* are lit on fire.

I believe it. I think Kubiak is fed up with it. I think his kids are fed up with it. I think we utterly SMASH the Jags and the media talking heads explode and ooze all over the floors of the ESPN studio because they just can't believe the Texans are relentless like zombies. You have to hit us in the brain to kill us, or we will chew your face off and snack on your guts.
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DON'T LOSE FAITH!

GO TEXANS!

sammy · Nov 14, 2011

9 weeks if we get a bye. 12 weeks if we make the SB. I'm still holding out hope.

Marteen · Nov 14, 2011

With such big news such as this, it makes this bye week that much bigger. Matt Leinart may not be the best QB in the world, but how good is it to have Arian Foster, Owen Daniels, and Andre Johnson watching your back? If this defense can play to its potential and stop people, this season is nowhere near close to being done.

HoustonRockets · Nov 14, 2011

damn, the Houston curse. Oh well, got the dynamo.

Commodore · Nov 14, 2011

ths balla said: ↑

this guy made back to back afc championships we will be fine
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I'll do you one better:

ascaptjack · Nov 14, 2011

This article was posted before the bad news.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...s-most-consistent-team?module=HP11_hot_topics

It's time we starting paying a little more attention to the Houston Texans.

After years of late-season collapses and near-playoff misses, the Texans likely would prefer to be quietly on a roll. But in what seems to be the ultimate year of parity in what was already an "Any Given Sunday" league, the Texans just might be the best team in the AFC.

They're certainly the best team no one is paying attention to, and after another week of piling up the rushing yards and pushing around an inferior opponent, it's safe to say they're going to run away with the AFC South. Tennessee is the only team within shouting distance, but I don't think they'll pose a real threat.

If you examine the Texans more closely, you'll find that this bunch is very much for real. They could be a tough out in the postseason with their combination of power running, stout defense (Wade Phillips is coordinator of the year), and the ability to get explosive plays in the passing game (especially when Andre Johnson comes back after the bye). There's a lot to like here, including the fact that the Texans should be fresher than most teams in the holiday season coming off this Week 11 bye.

The surprising Monday news of quarterback Matt Schaub's right foot injury certainly is worth monitoring, especially since he'll miss at least one game, according to coach Gary Kubiak. But if Matt Leinart can hold the fort in Week 12 against Jacksonville and Schaub's injury doesn't linger, the Texans shouldn't miss a beat (if he does miss more time, that's a different story that I'll address below).

For now, let's take a closer look at how the 7-3 Texans got here and where they're going. They're the hottest team in their conference, with four straight wins (including Sunday's impressive 37-9 blowout of the Bucs), and their 6-2 record against the AFC is tops as well. They would be the top seed if the playoffs started today (though the Ravens have a head-to-head tiebreaker over them). Their scoring differential is plus-107, by far best in the NFL, with Green Bay (96 heading into Monday night's game) and San Francisco (95) the only teams that are close.

They have played good teams, and played them well. They had the Saints on the ropes in Week 3 in New Orleans and dominated stretches of that game -- without Arian Foster -- but lost, 40-33, based on red-zone issues on offense and settling for short field goals. They beat Pittsburgh the following week, showing they could thrive in a defensive struggle (17-10); lost to Oakland in Week 5 (25-20), facing another physical team at a time the Raiders and Darren McFadden were rolling; then lost in Baltimore, 29-14, on the road the next week. The Ravens are pretty dominant at home, that game was closer than the score and it also came during this six-week stretch in which stud receiver Andre Johnson has been out.

So that's it, three legit losses and no real slip-ups. They've done it without Johnson, their best offensive player, most of the season, and without Mario Williams, their best defensive player, virtually all year. They're no joke, folks. Since that Week 6 loss to Baltimore, Houston has pounded opponents 132-24 in four victories. Yeah, they were facing lesser teams, but that's what good teams do -- beat the snot out of them, cruise through the second half and rest a few guys.

They've destroyed the AFC South the first time through, beating Indy, Jacksonville and Tennessee by a combined score of 99-28. Yikes. Half of their final six games are against those same three teams, and they also get Atlanta, Cincinnati and Carolina.

Houston is fifth in the league in points. They're rushing for nearly 160 yards a game. With Foster and Ben Tate, they have a two-back attack that will be tough to stop in any conditions (and an offensive line that runs the zone-block scheme to near perfection). Schaub is plenty effective and has been in that system for ages. Johnson and Owen Daniels make things happen in the pass game.

And how about the defense? Phillips has made a masterful transition to the 3-4 and changed the culture there. The unit now dominates late in games, and no longer falter. The signing of Johnathan Joseph was brilliant and has lifted that secondary. That signing is looking much better than the Nnamdi Asomugha or Antonio Cromartie deals thus far.

Who could have imagined that in Week 11, the Texans would have the best pass defense in the NFL. They're holding opposing quarterbacks to a 63.1 rating, with just six yards per attempt, 14 interceptions, and 28 sacks. And they're holding opponents to 4.17 yards per carry. Guys like Brian Cushing and Connor Barwin are having exceptional seasons.

This team is going to have people worried come the postseason. Is it the most imposing home-field advantage in the NFL? No. Will they go straight to the Super Bowl in their first year ever making the playoffs? I tend to doubt it. If Leinart has to play out the string, then I don't see more than a one-and-done scenario come the postseason. But I don't put a long playoff run past them, certainly when you consider some of the issues AFC top dogs like New England, Baltimore, Pittsburgh and New York have had at times through the season this year.
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jev5555 · Nov 14, 2011

"The patient’s foot was placed in a fracture boot, and he was assigned to strict non-weight-bearing status. He was then referred to a foot and ankle surgeon, who took him to the operating room 4 days after the injury for open reduction and internal fixation of both the medial cuneiform fracture and the Lisfranc dislocation. A cannulated screw was placed from the medial aspect of the medial cuneiform across the Lisfranc articulation into the base of the second metatarsal. A second screw was placed across the medial cuneiform into the middle cuneiform (Figure 2). The patient was instructed to remain non-weight bearing, and his foot was put in a cast to immobilize it. He was then given a fracture boot to wear for 6 weeks. He was gradually weaned from his fracture boot without difficulty. The hardware was removed 19 weeks after surgery. At 42 weeks after surgery and 22 weeks after removal of the screws, the patient was asymptomatic and was given permission to participate in all activities without restrictions. He participated in preseason conditioning without incident and was planning to compete in the regular season."

If there is no other options then we are looking at Schaub missing all of 2012 preseason and not being ready for at least the first 2 weeks of next season.

aggie87 · Nov 15, 2011

firs Tmac, then Yao, Mario William, and now Schuab......I hate being a Houston sports fan...

even the Aggies are the biggest disappointment ever after losing 3 straight

ascaptjack · Nov 15, 2011

Man, just gotta pray that he will be back in time for the playoffs.

Texans are the only thing we have going for us this year, especially with no Rockets for the forseeable future.

BrieflySpeaking · Nov 15, 2011

ascaptjack said: ↑

Man, just gotta pray that he will be back in time for the playoffs.

Texans are the only thing we have going for us this year, especially with no Rockets for the forseeable future.
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gods not gonna answer. he hates us

ascaptjack · Nov 15, 2011

This video makes me feel a little bit better.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-around-the-league/09000d5d8241edab/Leinart-named-starter

heypartner · Nov 15, 2011

I blame this on the Texans fan who got the Superbowl tattoo.

heypartner · Nov 15, 2011

The irony of the timing of this injury is DaDakota's post count is at 79,999 right now, and that is why he hasn't turned this thread into a QB debate. Apparently, he's got sumpin else planned for 80,000

Relentless · Nov 15, 2011

ascaptjack said: ↑

Got this off of Texanstalk
DON'T LOSE FAITH!
GO TEXANS!
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Quote:

We DO have to rally around this team right now. 100%. We have to believe that fate is not dealing us a death card...we're actually going to show the critics out there that the TEXANS have the best TEAM and we're not a one-man show like the Colts are.

We can lose our top defensive guy. We can lose another guy in Danieal Manning too. We can lose AJ, We can lose Foster. We can lose Schaub. But we're still going to beat YOUR ASS even without those guys. In fact, this year is the year that the "Texans are soft" label gets ripped up and shoved up Michael Lombardi's ass and the tattered edges that hang out of his ******* are lit on fire.

I believe it. I think Kubiak is fed up with it. I think his kids are fed up with it. I think we utterly SMASH the Jags and the media talking heads explode and ooze all over the floors of the ESPN studio because they just can't believe the Texans are relentless like zombies. You have to hit us in the brain to kill us, or we will chew your face off and snack on your guts.

This is what Cush needs to tell the guys.

ROXRAN · Nov 15, 2011

just for your own....information: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHipzGL4dwM

ima_drummer2k · Nov 15, 2011

HillBoy said: ↑

Even with Leinart under center, looking at the rest of the schedule, they should be OK. They should get Andre back after the break and that alone will go a long way toward helping Leinart and unlike days of old, they actually have a legitimate rushing attack to also take the pressure off Leinart. I mean it's not as if they are plugging Curtis Painter in at the QB spot. Leinart has the skills and ability to play QB and play it well. The questions about him have revolved around his maturity, work ethic and level of dedication toward mastering the position. Well, the fates have decided to give him his chance to show what he's got so here goes.
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Schaub out for the season and HillBoy, of all people, shows up with a positive post?

All the sudden, I'm not feeling so bad about all of this...

The Cat · Nov 15, 2011

I'm curious why the Texans are waiting a week for Schaub to visit the additional doctors, unless it's a swelling-related issue. Seems like if Matt is done for the year, you'd want to find out and announce it ASAP so the questions cease and you can move on with Leinart as the guy.

DonkeyMagic · Nov 15, 2011

The Cat said: ↑

I'm curious why the Texans are waiting a week for Schaub to visit the additional doctors, unless it's a swelling-related issue. Seems like if Matt is done for the year, you'd want to find out and announce it ASAP so the questions cease and you can move on with Leinart as the guy.
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I'd imagine it's related to swelling. It would be hard to get a really clear picture of the swelling goes down.

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