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Schaub the ELITE

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Hey Now!, Oct 1, 2012.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    like frisco's?

    anyway you don't draft guys to be backup qbs forever.
     
  2. Pringles

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    KEENUM KEENUM KEENUM KEENUM. :)

    He will be our Russel Wilson.
     
  3. Rocket River

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    What did you see in ROOKIE Schuab that made you think he would be a starter?

    Rocket River
     
  4. Commodore

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    FWIW Schaub is probably going to work his tail off this offseason with everyone doubting him
     
  5. Rocket River

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    hope so

    Rocket River
     
  6. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    ill think about that while watching the superbowl
     
  7. rhino17

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    San Francisco didn't lose their starter, they replaced him with their high drafted QB. He was drafted to replace Smith, Yates wasn't drafted to replace Schaub. If he was, they would not have given Shcaub that massive contract extension. QBs are drafted all the time to be backups. Not every drafted QB is supposed to be a starter. Every position has people drafted to be backups.
     
  8. vinsensual

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    Different how? Granted, nobody thought Robert Griffin III would be this good, nor that he would miss a few games. But their starter is a heavily invested rookie, there was never going to be a qb controversy unless there was an injury.

    Kaepernick was Harbaugh's 2nd rounder in his inaugural draft, and Alex Smith just finished a 6-10 season with a weak hold on the starters spot. Yates was drafted in the 5th, with Leinart already having the backup spot. Expectations between CK and Yates should've been different, not on assuming performance, but the role the coach had in mind for them.
     
  9. v3.0

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    Not to mention that Harbaugh traded up to get Kaepernick, he was hot to trot for Colin.

    We didn't trade up to draft Yates.
     
  10. ubigred

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    He was never elite. You are the sole reason why this ****ing thread won't die!!
     
  11. SWTsig

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    I like how everyone is saying the texans can get to the superbowl, all we need to do is improve the oline, dline, linebacking core, receivers, secondary and perhaps get a new offensive coordinator/scheme.

    Or....

    You can just get rid of schaub and replace him w a qb worth a damn
     
  12. sammy

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    And what if a team like NE drops 40 plus on us again? We probably still lose.
     
  13. SWTsig

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    They're not dropping 40 on us if we have a qb that is capable of extending drives, making plays and not choking in the redzone.
     
  14. DonkeyMagic

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    sounds like what happened to Brady...against a defense that was prepared and able to matchup against them.
     
  15. rezdawg

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    This could be a valid point...but the Texans had a greater time of possession than the Patriots.

    Doesnt matter how much we can extend drives, when the other team goes down the field 80 yards in 2-3 minutes. And they do that a few times a game. It's too much for 99% of the QBs in the NFL to overcome.
     
  16. DonkeyMagic

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    I think you may be splitting hairs a bit much. I mean, i get your indirect point in that if you draft someone earlier then you would typically think he would be a starter and as you move down the board then the chances obviously decrease. And that makes obvious sense based on the odds.

    But I also think that GMs and coaches are usually so confident in their picks that they feel that player could be a starter eventually. At least, that's what I would hope...I don't want a GM/Coach saying, "well all he will ever be is a backup ", but rather, I'd want them to say "he has the potential to be a top tier starter".

    I wouldn't be surprised if the texans really thought that Yates could be a starting QB when they drafted him, whether with the texans or traded to another team.
     
  17. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    thanks donkeymagic for explaining that a lot better. Just because he is a longer shot doesnt mean he isnt expected to be a starter.
     
  18. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    not only wouldnt the texans leave a potential playoff teams in the hands of an incapable qb, when yates was drafted we thought we had an injury prone starter. So the backup should have been expected to play.
     
  19. emjohn

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    Cosigned that teams don't spend draft picks on projected career backups. That backup is for two reasons:
    -Step in for an injured starter and provide reasonable play in his stead
    -Eventually take the reigns

    Teams wouldn't burn a pick on a guy that could never be a starter, they would rather just spend the minimum on a journeyman and save the pick for a position player if that were the case.

    Like others mentioned, teams that take guys in later rounds are not in immediate dire need of a new starter and are mining for a gem that they can develop over a couple years. Every once in a long while you strike gold with a Brady or Russell Wilson (end of 3rd rd).

    And pg, don't forget Leinart was the actual backup when we drafted Yates. Yates was never expected to take the field as a rookie, even if Schaub was hurt. If Kubiak gave us a tell, it was that Yates won the backup role this past preseason and Lemon was dropped.
     
  20. PDJACK7

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    Umm. I see there is still some people in denial. So sad
     

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