Football's a team sport for the most part. I understand you're trying to make Matt's case here for being elite, but nobody in this country will give him that respect until he's made his mark in the postseason, which is fair. To me there are only 5 elite qb's right now out of 32... Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Eli, Peyton
I agree with that. that's why i quoted schaub's line, "to get to that level you have to be the last man standing in February." from the shanon sharpe interview j.r posted. My problem is that goldfish forget brees, putting up pro bowl numbers, was mediocre and worst than 8-8 in the 2 seasons prior to the superbowl. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nor/2008.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nor/2007.htm The school of haters act like schaub can't get there but if he keeps his stats and the team wins...he will be there. It's all perception/reality.
I think this is fair, too - for the most part (he could play exceptionally well in the postseason and still lose through no fault of his own - does that make him less elite?). The problem is that we can't have a ficitional discussion about Schaub. He's playing elite football right now. What he may or may not do in the postseason will not change that. You could make a case for one QB currently playing better: Matt Ryan. Maybe Roethlisberger, who's quietly having a very good year. Still... he's third. That's elite. Schaub is better than PeePee right now. There isn't a GM in football that would deal Schaub for Manning. No way. I've seen two of Manning's games this year and he's not the same the QB. He might still be good enough to play effectively. But he is not among the league's best QBs. Not right now.
Ran across this New York Times article on Schaub http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/07/s...haub-is-getting-harder-to-overlook.html?_r=1& Spoiler
Matt Shaub is elite and when we win the Super Bowl. Espn will let everyone know, Lol. Matt's been putting up elite numbers for 4 yrs now the consistency is there its just he hasn't gotten the exposure because of our struggles. Now that we're espn darlings they want to throw out the matt Shaub elite argument and show the numbers to back it up. Only thing is these are things we texans fans have known. The way I feel is Matt Shaub is elite he's in the Brady, Rodgers, brees, and the mannings class in terms of talent and getting his team in proper position to play mistake free football offensivly. Which can be shown over his last 8 starts. Everyone of those elite qbs are different and don't play the game the same at all but one thing they do have in common is they all play very efficient smart football and have masterd their respective shcemes designed by their coaches. This is something Shaub has done as good as those guys mention that's why he deserves to be elite. There's not a qb in football that could run our offense like Matt and were very lucky we have him. The only thing those guys have that Shaubs missing is the championships as soon as he gets one the stats will back up his elite status more so than when Eli won his first Super Bowl. I'm very happy that Matt's getting the respect he deserves. I have always been a big believer in him and even told my family and friends he was elite 2 yrs ago and they thought i was joking. Now they think I'm a qb scout lol. He's got the offense perfected he's playing mistake free football and doesn't let the defense force him into anything which is the mark of a great qb. But most of all Matt Shaub knows how to win be it 300 yards and 4 Tds or 200 yards and no Tds he knows what his team needs to win very game. Not many qbs who have played the game have been able to figure that out and that's what makes him elite.
Have you guys read the stuff on how close Schaub was to being a Jet. I always thought that the Texans overpaid for an unproven player at the time, but now I know why.
those stats in that article have been fabricated by schaub only fans! schaub has never led the league in passing. he is a game managing arm noodle! signed, cougarmatt,lance, the rest of the big show, those douchie sports 'rap' hosts who were excited to see schaub hurt and DD's "he doesn't audible!!!" line.
Hated for Schaub to have that int., but still a lot better than so many in the season. I think he'll do even better going forward
i think he was just trying too hard to get Andre into the game. after that INT, he just said **** it dre, you're not getting separation. i'm going to someone else. and it's only his second INT of the season.
Indeed. When Schaub gets pressure he shuffles efficiently W/O panicking . When he's ran out of the pocket he doesn't force anything. Several times, esp. this season, when flushed out of the pocket on 2nd/3rd down, he has elected to throw the rock away without hesitation. I love that. Punt, play smash mouth D. Making the other team march 60-90 yards every possession is a big part of our system. Schaub obviously understands this. I'm glad to have a QB that only cares about winning.
Hopefully you caught the game tonight and saw what an elite quarterback really looks like. How's that fictional discussion going?
rogers is certainly better than Schaub. but where was his eliteness against the Colts last week? he did blow an 18 point lead.
Quarterbacks don't play defense. He threw three touchdowns last week. Guess he can do better and he's thrown six tonight so... yeah.
so now you're saying it's a team game? what do you think failed us tonight? that's right, schaub doesn't play defense either. he didn't have any protection and the run game stunk. i recall Rogers couldn't do anything in the Seattle game either when he was always running for his life.
Um, I think the offense scoring 17 points at home against this defense is a problem. What do you think? This isn't Seattle's defense. Schaub wasn't sacked 9 times.
