Schaub would not do very well in that. If you take away defenses guys like Luck and RG3 would shred him in a pure qb skills challenge. One of Schaub's best attributes is his experience. From a pure skills standpoint he is definitely in the bottom half of the league.
According to most here, Schaub can't perform unless it is under "ideal circumstances". So, I can't imagine a much more ideal circumstance than a competition where there's no defenders. Schaub is one of the most accurate quarterbacks in the league, FYI. Luck is one of the least accurate. The QB skills competition that was held from 1990-2005 consisted of the following: http://www.ehow.com/list_6719479_nfl-quarterback-challenge-rules.html Schaub would do fine in accuracy and no huddle, and he'd likely do ok in the mobility drill (this drill tests throwing on the run, which Schaub does surprisingly well, despite being slower than dirt). His deep ball placement leaves something to be desired, though. Griffin would probably beat everybody.
accuracy by the statistical measure is completely flawed. its just an advancement on the completion percentage stat which simply negates throw aways, spikes, and passes made under extreme duress, all which can have huge effects on a qbs completion percentage. accuracy percentage is nothing more than a true completion percentage. once you look past the numbers of this flawed stat and look at accuracy for what it really is, schaub isnt very accurate at all.. schaub throws way too many balls over, behind, and below his receivers for me to agree that he is accurate. i will give him efficient he can throw the ball to the open guy and rack up numbers all day, but he not accurate.. accurate is dropping back and throwing a ball into your receivers chest that only he had a chance to catch. when the texans run a curl route and schaub throws to od and he has to make a catch diving to the ground to keep the ball from grazing the grass, this doesnt fit the qualities of an accurate qb.. accuracy is more about precision passes than just completions..
absolutely spot on. schaub may complete a decent percentage of passes but there's no way you can say he is a precise thrower... far too many of his passes require his receiver to make serious adjustments that either kill plays or severly limit YACs.
That's fine and I mostly agree, however, it flies directly in the face of the "he only performs under ideal circumstances" argument that so many around here are fond of. If Schaub has a weak, inaccurate arm, yet still manages to complete a high percentage of passes and consistently ranks near the bottom of the league in turnovers, that speaks pretty damn well of his decision making. Especially under pressure. (I went into this in greater detail in the Eli vs. Schaub thread)
I agree, which is why you must use some sort of advanced metric to determine how many of a quarterbacks passes are catchable, yet somehow remove the throw-aways, spikes, and batted passes: Pro-Footballfocus.com has done just that, it's called "Accuracy Percentage". And according to their numbers Matt Schaub is the 9th most accurate quarterback in the NFL, higher than Drew Brees, Russell Wilson, Tony Homo, and even golden boy Andrew Luck. I'm obviously not saying that these numbers tell you that Schaub is better than those guys, but what I am saying is that these numbers tell you that Schaub is at least accurate. https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/10/12/signature-stats-snapshot-accuracy-percentage-2/ FYI for all the stat geeks out there (such as myself) Profootballfocus is an AMAZING site when it comes to advanced metric stats. They do a great job with numbers that dig deeper than just surface level stuff like "Completion %"
Totally agree. 'Jaws' mentioned this when he ranked all 32 NFL QBs, ball placement separates the good from the great. I think he ranked Schaub 12th in the league.
Good lord... Assuming they bomb on Saturday, Schaub plays poorly and the season ends... you think the team should be evaluated on those five games (+, of course, Green Bay)? That's absurd. It merits asking some tough questions... but let's please, please ,please keep some perspective.
Not necessarily. If you ask Schaub to make throws that aren't all that difficult his completion percentage will be high. People are saying that Schaub is good when he isn't ask to do the difficult tasks. Schaub isn't going to sit in the pocket and make amazing precise throws all day. However, Schaub will make the right read and get the ball to the right wr on a good play action pass that normally doesn't require a qb to be incredibly accurate.
How did we get *this* entitled? The team has one playoff win in 10 years and we're already willing to dismiss, wins-wise, the best season in Houston's professional football history? Unreal. They're 22-10 the past two seasons. Only Green Bay, New England, SF and Atlanta have better records over that stretch - and none of those teams played 6 of their 32 games with a 3rd string rookie at QB. And there's absolutely nothing to suggest this team won't be a 10+-win team again next year. They ended the regular season poorly. And if they lose these next two weeks (either to Cincinnati, completing their collapse; or New England, playing a game they never should have been playing), it'll be hard in the immediate afterglow to find a lot of silver linings in the way they went out. But I'm not about to be the fan who takes 12-4 for granted. Did we all forget that a lot of us (likely you, as you seem like the type) were cheering for them to LOSE so they could draft Reggie Bush not too terribly long ago? Give me 12-4 and a late-season collapse 100 times over an irrelevant 8-8 season with no stakes.
I don't think 12-4 should be taken for granted. On the other hand, being the 3 seed shouldn't be seen as a great improvement over last year. The most important goal every year is getting in the playoffs and I'm grateful for that this season, but they're playing the worst football out of all 12 playoff teams down the stretch. That's just depressing. Here's hoping for a turnaround. But again, 12-4 much better than the Steelers season. But 12-4 this year (w/ close wins vs bad teams and official mistakes) not a big improvement over last year's 10-6 imo. Schaub over Yates is good, but losing Winston, Brisiel, Cushing, Demeco all hurt.
Cushing going down the middle and stuffing everything would have been nice that's what SHE said. Having him back wreaking havoc would be good for the D next year. Offenses can't run or send a tight end on a crossing route if Cushing has anything to say about it.
You can say that about every team in the nfl. It is pretty amazing that people can be upset at a 12-4 season and a playoff appearance. Granted, I don't think those people are fans either. Fans can be upset that they choked away home field advantage, but as a whole season is concerned, 12-4 is hardly a year to be upset about (at least as the regular season is concerned. I'm curious as to where some of the depressed few actually thought this team end up record wise at the beginning of the season..but that's a different topic.
