That was kind of crappy, upon reread: He strikes me very much as a Schaub clone - big, slow-footed, cereberal. Thus, I think he would, like Schaub, thrive in this system. Being younger with a better arm makes it a no-brainer, in my mind.
Cerebral? Schaub? I think he is cagey, but I don't see him going up and reading the defense and audbiling a whole lot to take advantage. What is your definition of a cerebral player? DD
I agree with this in theory, but I would be hesitant just for the fact that it looks like he has trouble from the pocket and would be better suited in the shotgun ala Big Ben. Our system is heavy under center and bootleg heavy. A full training camp with Kubiak attached at the hip? Well probably Flacco then for the reasons you already listed but I would say the Texans front office would see it differently because Schaub imo is better suited to win now.
Similar in those ways, yes, but he's having a pretty bad year this year. Only completing 54% of his passes and 6.7 yards/attempt. I wonder why?
That's because you have no idea what you're talking about. They're smart. They both went to institutions known more for education than football; Schaub was an Academic All-American. If you're trying to push this to "football smart" - I've seen absolutely nothing to suggest Schaub isn't football smart: he has mastered this offense, doesn't force throws or turn the ball over; makes the proper read far more often than not......
I wouldn't do it *now* - I'm speaking more generally. And I recognize the Texans would likely never do it. He's had two terrible, terrible games plus a bye already - so we're looking at a small sample size. My guess is he'll be back to his norm by season's end. He's been pretty remarkably consistent.
Also, plenty of Texans players have talked about how Schaub is the leader of this team and how much confidence they have in him. The most recent example is Dreessen after Sunday's game (http://www.nfl.com/videos/houston-texans/09000d5d823a7d74/Turnaround-in-Houston. But hey, what do they know, they're just NFL players. DaDakota has played and coached this game.
since this is a schaub thread I would like to point out that his td-int ratio is actually one of the better ones in the nfl this season. Only 5 picks half way through the season. Extrapolate that through 16 games and that's only 10 ints this season which is pretty good for a qb who is top ten in passing attempts.
I am not saying he is dumb, just maybe not a good reader of defenses, football smart to me means quick thinker more than book smart. Guys that can see something and adjust quickly on the fly. Is Matt one of those guys? Don't know....if he would audbile more often we could get a better read. DD
How in the world would you know when he audibles? You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I'm sorry; you don't. Every decision a QB makes is "quick" - defenders aren't counting "one Mississippi" at the line of scrimmage. Given what has been a pretty remarkably well above-average INT%, I'd say he makes smart decisions way far more often than not.
Wow, this thread really blew up today. Before I'm done catching up, I just wanted to say that the reason I like Matty Ice isn't just about his team being a perennial playoff team once he entered the league, but that he's clutch, especially at home. I don't rank Sanchez or Flacco in Schaub's category, for I believe that Schaub would be more successful if substituted in for those teams. I didn't really say Matty Ice was head and shoulders above Schaub either...I just said that as he improves, Schaub will eventually be a tier below (he's older). My opinions are derived from a lot of gambling. I used to bet on a lot of NFL and so, yeah, Matty Ice was money, especially at the Dome. Category 1: Rodgers, Brady, Brees, P. Manning Category 2: Rothlisburger, E. Manning Category 3: Vick, Rivers (yes still), Ryan, Schaub, Stafford, Fitz, Romo, Cutler Rookies like Cam and Dalton are hard to categorize. Everyone else sucks. Being a good NFL QB is damn hard. Schaub is at worst a legit starter and squarely middle of the pack...at worst. I think he's top 33%. But yeah, in the entire freaking world, there are only 15 or so legit QBs. Everyone else sucks. It's so hard to find a legit QB, so even though Schaub isn't top tier, we're damn lucky as Texans fans to have him. Seriously, teams are trotting out Tavaris Jackson, Tim Teebow, and John Beck. A lot of these youngsters will be out of the league in a two years.
DD thinks an audible is when the QB gesticulates violently at the line of scrimmage and makes everyone shift formation like Peyton Manning. Either that or he has a mic on Schaub's helmet and can tell that Schaub never makes reads at the line of scrimmage.
I also think Cam Newton is going to be a special QB in the league, but how do you propose the Texans get a Cam Newton? I guess we can trade everyone away and tank for the #1 pick the following year. Schaub is what this team has for now and clearly the best option available. I would be fine if we draft a QB next season in the 3rd round to groom behind him, and maybe he can develop into a better QB than Schaub. It's doubtful though.
Well to be fair, the Chargers and Cowgirls don't have a stud RB and the Eagles have a sad O-line. I do think Matt has been better than all of those QB's this year besides Vick (Matt would be dead behind their line).
Nice list. I would move Vick up to Category 2 for sure, possibly 1. I don't see any other QB doing better behind that Philly line.
Interesting stat: http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/11/01/three-to-focus-on-jags-texans/ - Schaub was 0 for 5 on deep passes, but had a 133.1 QB rating when blitzed
Stats don't lie. Schaub is a very good QB, despite what he "looks" like out there, and the Texans could certainly do much much worse. If you think all a QB has to do is "look" the part, guys like Ryan Leaf, Drew Henson, and Brady Quinn would all be getting fitted for yellow jackets for HOF enshrinement right now. Barring a catastrophic season, they should never have to use a high pick on a QB for at least the next 3-4 years.
