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Scenario and Adjustment Model if 3s don't fall and refs don't call.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BigBum, Mar 27, 2019.

  1. BigDog63

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    Drive to the basket more...what ANY team should do if their outside shots aren't falling. It's also why we got CP3. Yes, part of that is dishing back out to the outside shooters...but think they might get more in rhytm if the offense had more flow to it first.

    FWIW...this isn't anything new. The Rockets back in the 90s had the very same problem...and no, they wouldn't drive to the basket either...and we used to b*tch about that then too.
     
  2. Stephen_A

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    Absolutely! As mentioned before in this thread post harden and Paul. House would thrive on cutting the land. Use pick and pops with nene. Chris Weber mentioned when house or rockets wing players pump fake on the corner 3 why not stop and take a short 2 similar to how Shaun Livingston plays instead of driving into traffic and kicking it out wasting time off the clock. Nothing wrong with that.
     
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    I agree. Play at the elbows. Post up sets with Paul or harden. Constantly cut. More offball up/down screens. Pick and pops with nene. Corner three pump fake drives with stop pull-up 10-15 footer. MDA needs to change it up when moreyball fails!
     
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    Rockets didn’t install a Melo post up game I requested as a “Break Glass in case of Emergency “ scheme for the
    Playoffs. 8-10 attempts in the regular season would have set up the team for about 14 attempts in the playoffs if
    viable/successful (He converted 73% in post ups plays he his short stint).

    Opposition is going to defend Harden as Bucks/Bledsoe did last night. Harden/CP3/Nene/Faried/Tucker/Rivers/Shumpert will need to attempt and make more mid-range shots in the playoffs. I believe the Rockets have made a greater
    attempt to instill ball handling guards as Playoff teams try to take away the Rockets 3’s and shots at rim. I’m not a
    believer these guards will be driven off the 3-point line and able to convert baskets at the rim consistently....as they
    are shorter than many of the wings playing for the most successful Playoffs teams nowadays. House plays a big role
    in the Playoffs of getting to the rim after being run off the 3-pt line, or pass to open man.

    Our guards will need to dribble, but pass to open man, after being driven off the 3-pt line.....problem I see is that teams
    are going to try to stay close to Eric Gordon/GG/House/CP3/Harden closely. Teams are going to make the Rockets
    beat them by leaving Shumpert/Rivers/Faried/Tucker/Clark open at the 3-pt line (allowing extra defender to lag off into
    the paint). This group would need to take and make more than just the small amount of 2 or 3 three’s they take in
    the regular season. Tucker will need to take/make most of around 8 attempts. Faried the same. Rivers will have
    to make some 3’s. Shumpert will need to get his act together. Clark is the only one of this group that I believe can
    make most of 8 three point attempts.......and it will be during the stressful playoffs. Gary Clark will end up being my
    X-factor going into the playoffs. If Morey let’s him play......he will do well.
     
  5. apollo33

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    Well we also don't have accurate shooters so there's that.

    This entire season was a mirage because it was all dependent of Harden cosplaying Wilt Chamberlain. I have a feeling we actually suck
     
  6. bj3175

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    Would should still shoot the same amount of threes the defense will have to react if we are getting easy shots then those threes will be in rhythm opposed to a stand still cold shooter taking wide OPEN UNCONTESTED THREES AND MISSING THEM. You cant cheat the game you have to play the right way and the shots will fall. We can literally get any shot we want we cant settle when we do we are mentally and emotionally not attacking and we cant win that way. They are attacking Clints game as well that's why we need to cut more to really keep the defense working hard and then moving. With that said I don't have a problem if the rockets are playing this way to keep their real offense for the playoffs a surprise. MDA will have redeemed himself
     
  7. Will

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    It's not complicated. Every guy on the court needs to have a move that can get him a mid-range shot with a decent percentage. You don't have to rely on it, but you do need that move in your pocket for games where they take away the 3 and have guys waiting for you at the basket.

    It's a basic rule of basketball: Take what they give you.
     
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    Dantoni don't have no plan
     
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    These types of debates ignore the fact that you don’t know it’s not working until it didn’t work. There are plenty of games where they have struggled in some portion of the game to bomb away in another.

    You can’t assume the next shot is bad because you’ve struggled to that point. Believe in be system and execute. If it fails it fails. You guys always ignore that this system you hate has led a team that is less talented than others to be the second best team in the west.
     
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    Nene is a top 5 center when healthy DamnTony, play him!:mad::rolleyes:
     
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    It sounds so much easier when those words are spoken.

    Harder to execute.

    Role players are like, why do I of all ppl have to expand the game? They are paying me not enough.
     
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  12. riko

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    No adjustments. Just hit you’re damn threes
     
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  13. BigDog63

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    Easier shots are easier shots.

    Do you think if you are missing 3's, that you couldn't hit a jumper from 5 ft?

    Also, it has a LOT to do with rhythm. The problem the Rocket seem to have is if their 3's aren't falling, they start forcing more up...making for more misses, and even less rhythm. Jacking up a quick three is a lot different than moving the ball around, and ending back with that same shot, but 5 passes later.
     
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    This is exactly what MDA always does.
     
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    aside from harden and chris paul do we have another good midrange shooter in our team? isnt that just another brick fest just nearer to the basket?
     
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    So much this.

    I can’t count the number of times Harden has started a game cold and the game thread is a non stop list of “jeez Harden quit chucking you ball hog” only for him to get hotter than the sun in the 2nd half and end up with 40+.
     
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  17. BigDog63

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    We have a lot of guys who don't have 'moves'...they are shooters. Someone else needs to make the 'move' for them...although they can move off the ball to a good spot.

    This is why Harden and Paul driving is SO important. That's what gets the other people open shots.
     
  18. BigDog63

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    Fair point, BUT..

    Statistics show shots come in streaks, like most things. So, actually, yes, your next shot IS likely to be bad if you've been struggling. The mental aspect then makes it even moreso that way...you start hoping it will go in, rather than knowing it will...and that affects your shot, in a negative way.

    Also, again, basketball is very much a game of rhythm. When you've been missing shots, it is prudent to try and do something to break the string, and get back in rhythm. Yes, a made 3 would do that...but for that to happen, you do have to actually make it (see above). Sometimes you have do do something to get the lid off the basket.

    FWIW, also, we DO know it didn't work. Take a look at games 6 and 7 of last year's WCF. In a playoff game, especially late in the series, you don't have the luxury of 'oh well, it didn't work this time, we'll get 'em next time'. You need to be able to adjust IN GAME to that scenario, and change it up if something isn't working.
     
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  19. riko

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    Rivers and Harden attacked the basket because unlike the Bucke the Nuggets don’t have any athletic bigs in the paint.
     
  20. Carl Herrera

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    The only adjustment is to play harder.
     

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