[SB Nation] Basic Stats Primer: Kevin Martin vs. Tracy McGrady

T-mac was never as go as Kobe, never except in Tracy fans eyes.

 

First of all, Kobe is as guilty as McGrady is for having poor shot selection. Kobe already is in the "right situation", yet he still jacks up all these bad shots with 18 seconds on the clock.

As for the go to move, McGrady had a few. The problem was that it almost always ended up in an 18 foot jumpshot.

 

IMHO being more efficient doesn't mean you're the better scorer. Technically speaking, DH is even more efficient than Kevin Martin, but as far as skilled scorers go he's pretty much below average.

Martin is indeed a more efficient scorer, but Tmac can score at elite defenses, something I'm not sure Martin can do, or at least at the level Tmac did. I'm pretty sure given the same situation, Martin won't be able to do the 13-in-35 Tmac did. When Tmac had that 4 pt play against Duncan hitting his arm, the 3 pointer he took probably wouldn't have gone in if Martin was the one taking it. Kobe's the same way, no matter what the situation is I don't think he'll be able to score as efficiently as Martin did. But, I also don't think Martin would be able to hit all those game winning jumpers Kobe had hit during his entire career.

 

It's the most prolific...yet you only name 4 guys.

The shooting guard position is far from the deepest in the league. In fact its the 2nd shallowest (?) ahead of only Center. PG, SF, and PF are all far more stacked.

Martin's the 5th or 6th best SG in the league.

 

Of coarse you don't care stats or %ages, you only care about scoring titles and a prime Mcgrady. Who cares if we can win a playoff series?

 

13 in 35 is one game. It shouldn't be used as an argument on great T-Mac's offense is. Kobe doesn't have a 13 in 35 performance, but he was better than T-Mac offensively. I rather have a player that is better for the whole season than a player that had a special 35 seconds.

 

As an overall player you can't say with a straight face that KM was better than Tmac. LOL at least Tmac led his team to the 4rth best record in the league at one point. The Kings were pereniall lottery dwellers once it became Martin's team. I'd rather reach the playoffs and lose in 7 games than not get to the playoffs at all and end up with one of the worst records in the league.

 

Numbers are cool, and Tracy may be a D-Bag, and people can lie to themselves all they want. Truth is though, KMart wishes he could play like a young TMac.
Of course now you would be crazy to take Mac over Martin. And it's not like either guy has excelled in the playoffs.

 

Bingo! At least some get it.

 

KMart was the more efficient scorer. But that is the ONLY category he beats Tmac in, IMO.

-Tmac averaged 4.7 assists, 6 rebs and 1.3 steals per game, all solid numbers for his position.

-By comparison, KMart has averaged 1.9 assists, 3.6 rebounds, and 1.0 steals.

KMart just isn't the all- around player and creator TMac was. Though I am surprised at how low TMac's TS% was most years.

 

I'm not living in a selective past. Where I remember the good times and forget the bad. I'm talking about what the stats show and I'm talking about the present. I can say with a straight face that KM is better now and I can say Tracy didn't create the best team mentality.

Did KM have Yao, Scola, Brooks, Lowery, Ariza, Shane, with the Kings? And would have Tracy been able to lead the kings past the first round or even out of the lottery?

 

moot. I rate prime McGrady's IQ higher than Kobe, Lebron, or Wade. Even Jeff Van Gundy used to gush that that T-mac's IQ was only 2nd to Steve Nash. Players of that caliber sometimes are forced to take shots that are of the highest degree of difficulty because of the defensive attention they get.

McGrady was capable of being a cog on a good team (Raptors), but he wanted more at the time.

 

KM is better now, but it's laughable to compare him to McGrady his first couple of years in Houston. We're talking two different tiers of players.

 

I just mean in terms of just taking a game over when you are in the zone. Kevin Martin could not have done that.

 

Well that was an insightful article.

 

Why not?

If he is in the zone, he certainly could......

Look...Tmac is gone.....**** him !

DD

 

Hahahahahaha! :grin: . I'm liking this one DD :grin:

Kevin Martin is not on the same level as Tracy McGrady. They should not even be compared for crying out loud. A limping T-Mac can dominate and for the other I don't think so.

Kevin Martin is a better fit for the team as one here has put it and I could not agree even more. Let's hope for the best and go Houston Rockets!

 

No he can't. The reason is he needs to be set up to be effective. Granted, he's SUPER EFFECTIVE when set up correctly, hence his amazing shooting numbers.
And over the course of 48 minutes, Martin will get free for a lot of shots, so he'll always score a lot.

But that doesn't take away from the fact that you can't just iso him and let him take care of business. But given that the Adelman offense is opportunistic in nature, I think this deficiency isn't as glaring as it would be in a JVG no-imagination offense.

 

We don't need Kevin Martin to carry this team! We should have enough scorers in Scola, Brooks, Yao and Martin to keep the offense flowing. This is an Adelman team, so we don't need only one superstar in order to keep this team afloat!

 

4 in 12

that's how many championships in the years Tim Duncan has been with the Spurs.

I'm sure the Spurs fans are still haunted by Tracy McGrady's fluke.. I mean flurry of 3 pointers today