Say what you may about him, Artest is a difference-maker

I knew it all along.. When Artest was available from Indianna, I said do whatever it takes to bring him here. Put Yao and T-mac aside I would trade anybdoy on the team for Artest. I would of traded Luther,Stromile,1st round pick and MOney for Artest.

He is one of the few guys that can bring it all in this leauge..

Rebounding,Shooting,Defense,Hustle,Block Shots. We wouldnt be in the spot right now if we had Artest..

But you know what I got in return from other posters was... Your stupid.. ARtest is a head case... We would of had a worse team with him on here.. etc... etc..

 

tested, who did the Rockets offer for Ron Artest?

 

Thats the problem we don't know .. All CD said was that they tried.

But I doubt Indiana would turn down Stromile, Luther, 1st round pick, and Money..

 

Artest is great... until he inevitably destroys your team's chances of winning with an incredibly boneheaded move in a crucial situation.

That's the rub with Artest, he's brilliant until he explodes, but he will explode.

 

You think that is a better offer than Peja Stojakavich? I disagree. I don't think that comes close to the deal they made for Peja. After reading some quotes from Les regarding his pursuit of Artest, I doubt the Rockets did not offer much more than what you seem to think they offered. I think that no matter what offer the Rockets could have made, it would not beat the Peja deal. That would have been a season saving trade though. Just thinking about it...you know....

 

Um, Artest was acquired cheaply for a reason. One obvious reason: he's psycho.

 

Yeah. I wanted Artest on the Rockets too, but we couldn't make an offer as good as the Kings. End of story.

 

revisit this post when the honeymoon wears off. true he can be a great player and the type of player who can help a team win championships but he is also insane. he might as well be one step away from pulling a ricky williams.

 

Didn't folks say the same thing with 'Sheed?

Only those take risks have a chance to win.

The Kings' owner are in gambling business, they knwo what they are doing.

 

Ron Artest isn't Sheed. That's a superficial only comparison. Artest will destroy his team eventually (and even if he is the same as Sheed, Sacramento isn't Detroit in terms of the stability surrounding the two players).

 

and you know this how?

Artest destroyed Pacer...not. They got Peja now.

 

The Pacers were a title contender and now they may make the playoffs. Artest sank them in 2 consecutive seasons (he killed the Pacers with an idiotic elbow to Richard Hamilton at a crucial point in game 6 two years ago and with a beyond idiotic run through the stands last season). They'll be a lovely first round and out team for a while now.

If you're asking how I know Artest will destroy Sacramento's chances, then it's because that's what he always does. If you're asking how Detroit is more stable than Sacramento, I think that's fairly evident. If you're asking how Sheed is different than Artest, then ask every teammate Sheed has had since they all love him unlike Ron's (like Jermaine--who btw loves Sheed) who were happy to see him go.

 

i obviously dont know but i would bet eventually sometime next season. artest will do Something that will screw up the team. in saying that i still wanted him for the rockets he is just too good.

i think i would almost want him more then ben wallace. both perfect players for this team.

 

As has been already said, the man is a timebomb. He's playing good citizen right now to endear himself to Sac and piss a little on Indiana. In a year or two, maybe less, he'll feel comfortable again and start ****ting on the franchise.

Evan

 

No doubt, that "run through the stands" was idiotic. But Artest gave pacer a lot for the money. Pacer is still making PO without JO.

Bottomline, taking Artest was a risk, but taking Artest for a disgruntled Peja was a risk worth taking.

 

The thing about Ron-Ron is that he's a crazy person. He isn't like the good ole' Dennis Rodman who puts on a show with his acts, or Rasheed Wallace who was just immature back in his Portland days. No, Artest is simply mentally ill. The guy will self-destruct sooner or later and take down his team in the process.

 

Bingo. Taking risk with an immature player is one thing. Taking risk with a psycho is another. Artest is more comparable to Vernon Maxwell than Rasheed or Rodman. But even Maxwell is like a choir boy comparing to Artest.

And it is precisely because he is so talented that he is so dangerous to his team. The more a "difference-maker" he is, the more the team is disrupted when he explodes. When Mad Max quit on us, it was bad but not that bad because even though he was an important piece, he's not the biggest difference-maker on the team. Now, Artest is arguably the biggest difference-maker on the Kings. When he screws up, the team will be done.

 

IF Artest has grown up and doesn't go awol, then the Kings are in good shape to make a serious run. He is a difference maker. Just having him out on the court, playing the type of defense he plays is huge. He is like having a Ben Wallace on the court who can also score and shoot the 3.

Kings are in good shape. So far.

 

amazing what winning can do
When Rasheed was with Portland .. HE WAS A PSYCHO
in many people's opinions. ..
I remember reports of him and Bonzi cutting up

I think Artest will be ok

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