1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Say it ain't so!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by jiggyfly, Feb 4, 2021.

  1. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Atomic Playboy
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2002
    Messages:
    59,079
    Likes Received:
    52,747
    That's their only good song -- there I said it.
     
    ThatBoyNick and B-Bob like this.
  2. ThatBoyNick

    ThatBoyNick Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2011
    Messages:
    31,141
    Likes Received:
    48,742
    They did have red hot chili peppers potential though.
     
  3. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    I disagree.

    I think she got over her skies a bit, like I said it's probably more the fault of the media because every report I saw made it seem like there were rioters at her door, I don't think they instagram thing was wise considering other folks were actually in the capitol with the rioters and the cop thing was not great as well.

    I understand why she felt that way because yeah she would have been top of the list but IMO she made it to much about her.

    It is a story considering how people have come for me and Neo liberals.
     
  4. ThatBoyNick

    ThatBoyNick Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2011
    Messages:
    31,141
    Likes Received:
    48,742
    It deserves its own thread.
     
    jiggyfly likes this.
  5. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    And that's fine, when I started the thread I was hoping there was an explanation and there was one of sorts, I just don't think it was sufficient to what the narrative had been on the news channels and yeah that's not entirely her fault but IMO she played it up.

    There would not have been all this vitriol if some people had not started with the Neo Liberals talk and attacking me like I got a issue with AOC.
     
  6. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    58,167
    Likes Received:
    48,334
    I admit I laughed.. Not proud of it.
     
    KingCheetah likes this.
  7. gifford1967

    gifford1967 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2003
    Messages:
    8,302
    Likes Received:
    4,646
    credible
     
  8. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    58,167
    Likes Received:
    48,334
    Haven't had the chance to read through this whole thread but I do think AOC probably did exaggerate but I don't begrudge her for feeling afraid even if she was in an adjoining building. I can understand why Mace and others are jumping on this but I don't think it's a pretty good look of them to downplay it either. To me that would be like telling someone who was in Brooklyn on 911 that their fear and uneasiness isn't that big of a deal considering they were on the other side of the East River.

    For me the only part of AOC's story that seems over the top is her description of the Capitol Hill Officer who came to get her. Her description makes it sound like he was out to get her when he was clearly there to help her.
     
    FranchiseBlade, JumpMan and jiggyfly like this.
  9. gifford1967

    gifford1967 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2003
    Messages:
    8,302
    Likes Received:
    4,646
    So you had an emotional reaction to people "attacking" you. On a message board. Got it.
     
  10. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    That is what put it over the top for me at the end of the day this probably will be a side note.

    Did you know she was in a separate building?
     
  11. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    You funny.

    I had the emotional reaction? o_O
     
  12. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    58,167
    Likes Received:
    48,334
    I didn't know she was in a separate building but to be honest I hadn't thought much about AOC's experience that day. To me AOC's experience wasn't something that made me think any differently about what happened.
     
    jiggyfly likes this.
  13. Pole

    Pole Houston Rockets--Tilman Fertitta's latest mess.

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 1999
    Messages:
    8,566
    Likes Received:
    2,731
    I watched the first ten minutes of her 90 minute video......,where she played with her hair no less than a dozen times, and I can only emphatically say: NOT GUILTY!!!
     
    jiggyfly, saitou and FranchiseBlade like this.
  14. Invisible Fan

    Invisible Fan Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2001
    Messages:
    45,954
    Likes Received:
    28,046
    The fact that tunnels were compromised and pipe bombs were found around capitol hill means AOC has every right to feel her life was threatened. When I heard there were members still stuck in the building, my first reaction was why weren't they already in the tunnels and into safer buildings?

    I haven't followed up on the stories about plots to gas members of congress in those tunnels, but the stories are out there for her to make the outlandish claim of Ted calling for her murder. I guess it's a question of why she needs to exagerate on making it sound worse than it already was, but on the flipside, it's also petty and silly for the opposition to split hairs over details that are mostly factual and gloss over the severity of the mob invasion.
     
    Blatz and FranchiseBlade like this.
  15. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    100,482
    Likes Received:
    102,602
    "run them into the tunnels, seal it and turn on the gas."
     
  16. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    58,167
    Likes Received:
    48,334
    AOC and Rep. Jason Crow just gave an interview on CBS. She's saying that her response was based on the entirety of her life's experience. Crow is saying how trauma like that is outside of normal life experience and that there often is stigma placed on survivors.

    Both are saying that survivors' stories are often doubted and is one reason why many survivors of trauma don't seek help.

    One thing that Crow brought up is that they were getting notifications that the entire Capitol complex was overrun including the adjacent office buildings. As such it wasn't clear how far the attackers of the Capitol had gotten.
     
    Amiga likes this.
  17. Amiga

    Amiga Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2008
    Messages:
    25,059
    Likes Received:
    23,322
    It's a BS narrative that has a negative impact on society (stigma placed on survivors - just tough it out, it's your fault). One lawmaker went out of her way:



    Except she said this also:

     
  18. dobro1229

    dobro1229 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2010
    Messages:
    25,684
    Likes Received:
    22,414
    AOC was right to be freaked out for her life and @jiggyfly knows that which is why this thread is so odd. Every day AOC is a target to get .... you know. Those militia nutcases on the right are ALL obsessed with her, and there would be no greater badge of honor in MAGA Proud Boy land than to be the one who had found her in the Capital tunnels and did things to her.

    I'm not a woman so I'll never know exactly how it feels to know the fear of sexual assault, or the trauma of having lived through it, but I can imagine that there are few things in this world more terrifying.

    I agree with @jiggyfly on a whole range of issues, but he's just very wrong here, and should know better.
     
  19. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856

    Please actually read what I have said.

    I never said she did not have that right, I have repeatedly said she has that right and should have felt especially scared.
     
  20. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    Again please actually read what I wrote, I have never said she did not have that right.

    Once you read what my actual issues are get back with me.
     

Share This Page