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Samuel Dalembert joins the All-Overpaid Team

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by foodworld, Jul 14, 2005.

  1. wrath_of_khan

    wrath_of_khan Member

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    This was a big problem that many people here in Philly had with the Webber trade. It basically means that this is the team they're stuck with for the next several years, and it's not a good enough team to win a championship.
     
  2. foodworld

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    He scores well in a playoff series against a team that was focusing on Webber and AI, and all of a sudden he's worth this kind of money. Ever hear of John Koncak?

    I'm really not sold on him becoming one of the league's better big men. I mean, I expected big things from him, but he really regressed last season in his contract year (he was beginning to develop an tweener shot, but he lost it.) It's his fourth year in the league, and he still can't score to save his life outside of put-backs. All he has is wing-span and athleticism, but that only counts for so much when you have bad hands and don't know how to play basketball.

    The three-second calls, goal-tendings and overall lack of basketball skills are going to bring out the boo-birds in Philly now that he's making the Max.

    I'll go out on a limb and say Dan Gadzuric is a better player than he is.
     
  3. gucci888

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    Really? 30million isn't the difference between what Dalembert can give you vs. Foyle.

    You're right, centers are always overpaid, but 12M is way too much for this guy. He's a good young talent that got his contract because of the magical word "potential." We're talking about giving Swift's 9 & 5 and how he isn't worth 8-9M, Dalembert gives you 8 & 7 and he is gonna make 12M? This kid will never live up to his contract.

    But my main pick is w/ Philly, why the hell would you straight out give him 12M? I probably don't know all the behind the scenes stuff, but they should have waited to see what kind of offers he will get. It's like yelling out a million dollars at an auction before anyone else can even bid, ya you get what you want, but you'll never know how much cheaper you could have gotten it.
     
  4. Genuine

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    Bert at least has some game though, he is young and seems raw, but he is 6'11'' and very athletic. He's good on D, blocking shots, boarding, and he has intangibles you look for. I like him. Not at 12 mil a year though :eek: .
    Maybe Badiane can devolp into a poor mans Dalembert?
     
  5. emjohn

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    Of course, this is the same team that gave Kenny Thomas and Eric Snow their current deals.

    Evan
     
  6. shaiqia

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    Anyone still suggest Rockets shouldn't offer Yao more than 8 mil/year for his next contract after this crazy summer?
     
  7. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    And McKie, and McCollough and took on Webber's contract, and......
     
  8. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    This is why the Jerome James signing was pretty good for the knicks. Anytime a center shows some decent skills he gets overpaid. It never fails in the NBA.
     
  9. foodworld

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    Matt Geiger :D
     
  10. dharocks

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    I think Dalembert will give them decent production. Maybe even a double double with 2+ blocks. He'll definitely show improvement now that O'Brien is gone.

    Is that worth $75 million? I guess maybe if they had to pay him that much to keep him... Personally, I don't think that they did.
     
  11. SupermanSK

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    Its just a bad crop free agents this year....competition to get the best available players is there every offseason.....these free agents are just taking adavantage that there aren't better players then them......you blame them?
     
  12. LongTimeFan

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    #32 LongTimeFan, Jul 18, 2005
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  13. KellyDwyer

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    Another Real GM rumor.

    He'll be in Philly, but (without looking at the first Real GM post) didn't they get their "info" from "whispers?"
     
  14. Williamson

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    Absolutely.

    1. Adonal Foyle is oft injured.
    2. Adonal Foyle is at an age that he will only get worse, there is no upside.

    Dalembert is more durable. He is more athletic and right now, at age 24, I believe he is better than Adonal Foyle. He also still has the p word going for him. There is a possibility he could develop into something really special. Obviously he won't be the next Hakeem Olajawon, but maybe he can be the next Ben Wallace. Considering all of that, yes, I would much prefer Dalembert for 70 million than Foyle for 40.
     
  15. monkeyboy32

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2115562


    Agent says Sixers to sign Dalembert to six-year deal
    By Chad Ford
    ESPN Insider

    Samuel Dalembert agreed to a six year deal with the Philadelphia 76ers on Saturday, his agent Marc Cornstein, told ESPN Insider.

    Cornstein refused to disclose the amount of the contract, but it's believed to be worth between $60 million to $70 million, based on previous negotiations.

    The signing came just one day before Dalembert was set to get on a plane and visit the Atlanta Hawks, who had the money under the cap to pay him a maximum five-year, $70 million offer.

    Of the three top big men on the market, Dalembert was the center with the most upside. He has great range and is athletic, with great shot blocking instincts. He's shown he can be a volume rebounder and his offensive game is emerging. He was very inconsistent at times this season, but in the playoffs against the Detroit Pistons, he played the part of a franchise center.

    The Sixers made a power move this offseason, firing head coach Jim O'Brien, who wasn't a Dalembert fan, and replacing him with Mo Cheeks, who is. Philly let it be known that O'Brien was fired, in part, because the Sixers are committed to Dalembert.

    This is the third deal for the Sixers this summer. They also reached six-year deals with Kyle Korver for $25 million and with Willie Green for about $20 million.

    Chad Ford covers the NBA for ESPN Insider.
     
  16. micah1j

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    Thanks Monkey Boy :D (I just wanted to say that) :cool:
     
  17. tiger0330

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    Gee, what are we going to have to pay Yao if he has a good year?
     
  18. micah1j

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    Ya, good thing there is a max salary. Otherwise Yao would be worth 30-40M a year by comparison.
     
  19. apostolic3

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    This is what happens when you have players like Redd & Dalembert on your team. Someone like the Hawks or the Hornets will offer them a max deal to lure them away. Your choice is to match or lose them for nothing. It's almost a "no win" situation. So what do you do? Let them go and get nothing in return or overpay them? The maximum salary causes a race to the top, and if you don't offer your own free agent the max he will be insulted.

    Every year, at least a couple of teams will have huge cap room and max contract offers will go out, some deserving, some not. That's the way the system works. It makes franchise players, very good players and players with "potential" all get nearly the same salary.
     
  20. Pat

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    Yeah it seems like a bad contract, but hey, under the new CBA, the Sixers can cut him now and avoid the luxury tax hit. :D
     

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