Sage being dealt to Vikings(Deal done announcement Friday)

Flukes can happen twice, and do with regularity, especially when viciously illegal and flagrant hits take place. I can't find the statistic offhand, but the NFL has only given out 5-10 maximum fine penalities on defenders the last couple of years. Two of them have been against defenders hitting Matt Schaub. That's a little disproportionate and flukish, to say the least.

 

I find it interesting that Minnesota would want a guy like Sage at all. When you have a team that has good defense and a solid to great running game, you want a QB that manages the game and minimizes mistakes. Sage is the opposite of that guy. He has talent but makes too many turnovers and takes too many silly chances. I hope he does well because I always wished best for him and outside of his performance on the field at times I never had any issues with the guy...but I think Minny regrets this trade in the end.

 

haynesworth's hit was a helmet to helmet, but that wasn't the injury that left schaub out the rest of that season

I won't argue about jared allen's hit, but I wouldn't call hits on qbs flukes

 

You gotta be freaking kidding me. That one loss where the potential game-winning drive he threw a red-zone pick, I'll give you as a team loss. Obviously all the others were team losses.

But if you expect me to believe anyone not named Sage Rosenfels is responsible for the Indy loss, THAT "is a load of crap."

It's extremely rare--EXTREMELY rare--for one player to win or lose a game single-handedly. (I'm always screaming about teams winning or losing games!)

But in this case, Sage pulled it off. He lost the damn game all by himself. A historic, epic meltdown. As if Houston needed any more of those.

 

And before I get piled on too deep here by Sage's greatest fans, yes I far overreacted to that loss, and no, Rosenfumble isn't nearly as bad as that one loss.

I wish him the best. Nice guy.

But for a 4th round pick? Sign me up! 'Bye, Rosengone!!

 

true; it did knock him out of the game, though.

i tend to agree - QBs are often hit late, etc. - it's a dangerous byproduct of the position. and haynesworth's hit, which separated schaub's shoulder, was legal and not a fluke.

but florence's hit (which cost schaub a game and a half) and allen's two hits (costing him another 4.5) were both illegal and the two players were fined appropriately. florence's hit, specifically, was plain dirty. i'd call both fluke-ish, certainly. he's not getting hurt in the normal, expected - legal - flow of the game.

it's not a significant distinction; but i think it's definitely worth noting.

 

i'm with The Cat, btw. it's natural to be concerned about our back-up QB given schaub's history (not overly concerned: i heard a caller yesterday on paillio's show call it the worst move in franchise history), and even moreso because rosenfels was an above-average back-up QB. but, frankly - if your back-up is expected to see significant playing time... well, you could certainly upgrade over rosenfels, who tends to get exposed with more, well - exposure.

put it this way: would you deal rosenfels for owen daniels? daniels was a 4th round pick. obviously, there's no guarantee you'll pick another daniels. but looking at the players the texans have grabbed in the 4th round throughout their history (domanick davis, jerome mathis, daniels, fred bennett, xavier adibi - even glenn earl), they've found good to very good talent in that round. i think rosenfels is worth gambling that you can add another starter to your team.

 

That is Sage his entire career:

2008 Houston Texans TD- 6 INT- 10 FUM - 4
2007 Houston Texans TD- 15 INT- 12 FUM - 4
2006 Houston Texans TD- 3 INT- 1 FUM - 0
2005 Miami Dolphins TD- 4 INT- 3 FUM - 1
2004 Miami Dolphins TD- 1 INT- 3 FUM - 2
2003 Miami Dolphins TD- 1 INT- 0 FUM - 0
2002 Miami Dolphins TD- 0 INT- 0 FUM - 0

He thinks he is a better QB than he really is. He tries things Joe Montana wouldn't try.

 

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