Sage being dealt to Vikings(Deal done announcement Friday)

a two year in a row fluke

edit: for a guy who's only started two years

 

That is a load of crap.

If the team wins, its a team win.

If the team loses, its all of Sage's fault.

 

I have never had a problem with Sage, but I have to say he did lose the Indy game for us. Too many TOs in the fourth, thats on him.

 

So the ass pounding Schaub got for holding the ball too long, which did not get flagged for an illegal hit, don't really count. It is all becoming clear.

FWIW part of the blame for Schaub's injuries is the OL. Maybe if Schaub played behind a better pass blocking OL, he would get hurt less. Maybe.

Any bets if Schaub goes down for 4/5 games next year and our record is not better that Kubiak is shown the door. This is a huge bet by Kubiak that his yet-to-be-signed backup QB will save his job.

 

How in the world are people still criticizing the OL???

After watching this team finish 4th in passing yards and 3rd in total yards, when is anyone gonna give the OL any credit for that???

If this offensive line still sucks...then Schaub is the greatest QB in the league for guiding this team to that kind of success in the air.

 

So how many Texan OL-men went to he pro bowl?

The Texans OL do not pick up blitzes well. They just don't. Compare the Texans OL ability to pick up blitzing versus the playoff teams OL. It is really sad.

The Texans also rely heavily on 3-step-drop passes. They complete a lot of short yardage, high percentage passes. They struggle with the longer routes and some of this is because the OL has troubles holding their blocks that long.

 

I don't care how many went to the Pro Bowl. The point is, they did their job. This team was able to move the football. At some point people have to recognize the OL is part of that success. Of course it can be improved...but this is an above-average line to produce those kinds of results.

 

Ben Rothlesburger was the most sacked qb in 2008.

 

I personally believe that we'll get a full season out of Schaub this year (meaning 14+ games started) and I think he will solidify himself as one of the better QBs in the league in the process (maybe top 10 or better). I think the injuries to him were flukes, as The Cat detailed, and I think how well Matt held up in that last Tennessee win last year is evidence of that. He got hammered pretty hard in that game, but kept getting back up because he never had any truly dirty hits designed to hurt him. I think the guy is sufficiently tough as long as he is receiving NFL hits and not cheap shots.

 

Sorry my bad. Rosenfels

 

I haven't really heard or seen much talk here about getting Rosenfels. T-Jac, thats what they call Jackson here, had a crappy first two games but came back decently late in the season. I still have a feeling he is going to be the quarterback of the future. He's still young and has shown he can be coached and is learning the proper balance between being a good passer and also being a good runner. Ferotte filled in well as a starter. Neither were steller but overall for the season were decent.

 

it is important to note that the team finish 4th in passing yards and 3rd in total yards, You said that the OL should be recognized for their success, yet no Pro Bowl nods.

How about this stat? Points per game. How well did the team do? 3rd in overall yards should equate to about the same rank in points per game, right?

Ahh, but the offense struggled in the Red Zone. Who to blame? The offense puts up great run/pass stats, yet failed to deliver in the Red Zone, where it really counts. Who to blame?

Here is another stat? win-loss record.

 

Huh? What does that have to do with anything? That is a terrible measure of success.

For the AFC, the Titans and Dolphins, both playoff teams, failed to have any pro bowl linemen.

For the NFC, out of the 6 playoff teams, only 2 of them had probowl linemen. The Giants, Panthers, Falcons, and Cardinals had zero probowlers from their OLine.

Our OLine must be doing something right when it gives up less sacks than Baltimore, Minnesota, New England, and Pittsburgh...all teams that are known for being monsters in the trenches.

 

Yes, I said they should be recognized for their success...I don't know if individually any one of them merits a Pro Bowl invite...but as a group, they were the unit up front for the 3rd best offense in terms of total yardage in football. You're complaining about pass protection for a team that finished 4th in total passing yards.

It's funny...for years when the team couldn't move the ball it was always the OL's fault. Now they're moving the ball about as well as any team in the league, but they're still not given credit.

 

THIS IS PARTICULARLY SO WHEN THE CRITICISM IS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT PASS PROTECTION AND GIVING UP SACKS.

 

How about this stat...we were 10th in the NFL in 3rd down conversions and 8th in the NFL in 4th down conversions. Arent these the real "stats" that show off your offensive line? Yes.

You're going to throw the blame all towards the OLine? How about not having a bruising running back? How about poor play calling? How about lack of execution from the skill positions?

Uhhh, win-loss record is now tied to how good your OLine is? That would be like ranking the best pitchers in baseball by their win-loss records.

 

Dude, we threw a ton of picks in the red zone last year. Also, after Green went down, we were left with a small Slaton who's not built to pick up goal line yards. Is there anything else you want to pin on the OL? I know it's been a constant chant since day one but that doesn't mean you have to keep using it.

 

Sage as a starter was 2-3 last year and 6-4 the last two years. Yet you want to hang him for not being 7-3. I hate to find out what you think of Schaub.

 

Read the first part of his statement -- teams win and lose games, with the exception of incredible, once-in-a-generation type exceptions. The Indianapolis game, by almost everyone who watched it, was one of those games.