Sad - I quit caring

Rileydog,

I feel your pain but I'll never quit caring. Sometimes this group is downright impossible to watch. I'm convinced it's more the collection of players that really don't complement each other, coupled with SF's continued dysfunction as a playmaker and leader.

We're going through a painful passage and either the players must change or the players will be changed (for others). I don't think it's JVG as Rudy had no success with the inmates either.

Since fan is short for fanatic, guess I am one...win, lose, beautiful or ugly play. Always have been, always will be. If this team, or last year's team, hasn't driven me away - well, I must be nuts!!

Hang in there. I still believe we are playoff bound.

D R

 

Hes not. But all the RealGM stalkers on here think anyone could be had as long as our offer includes Boki and a 2nd round draft pick.

 

I disagree with you. The major problem is JVG couldn't find the right way to efficient offense. A coach cannot enforce his player to do what players cannot do.

No body suspect such a fact that JVG changed ROX's defense positively, even if such a defense is not always effective. The same is true--JVG made ROX's offense suck.

I love CATO. But I would like to point out that ROX's PF is the cancer of the team. CATO cannot shoot and MOT cannot pass. That's the biggest problem at the offense end.

 

My post was somewhat "tongue in cheek," so I really shouldn't respond to this, but don't ya think Pau Gasol would add some value to the Rockets?

 

Yeah, sure he would. The Gas-Hole has good size and can block a few shots, but he's another "soft" player. Also, his stats have regressed this season, including his FG%. Some counting stats may be a reflection of his slightly decreased playing time, but there's gotta be a reason why he's not playing as much as the last two seasons, being on a last place, albeit .500, team. He'd be a definite upgrade over Cato offensively, but a downgrade defensively. Definitely not worth giving up Francis for, especially when we have to take on somebody as inconsistent as Jason Williams. Haven't we seen enough of wild, bone-headed point guard play the last few years? And haven't we seen enough of soft big man play the last couple of years also?

 

I guess I should have said some of the worst "fundamental" basketball ever. There has been no team offense the last four years. OH, they almost made the play-offs. Whoop de fricken doo. Best record to not make the play-offs. Whoop de fricken doo. Yes, I consider the "offense" the Rockets have played the last four years some of the worst ever, regardless of the fact they almost made the playoffs.

What a Pollyanna you are. You really think after 30 some odd games that Van Gundy, or any new coach would have traded a player annointed "The Franchise" and given a max contract? Right. Would you have done that after 30 games? or 20 games? Hell, how about after 10 games? You could have taken a player with a max contract and traded his ass already and gotten equal or better value for him. How about the fact there is an owner involved that likes to have some say in how his money is spent?

Let's not forget the negativity. Van Gundy should be telling us how wonderful everything is. He should tell us that we have a winning record in a tough conference and we're playing every game with intensity and energy , hardly turn the ball over or make a bad pass and Yao is a freaking monster in the paint. I guess some of us would believe that. Pollyanna.

 

Welcome to the dark side. We have been waiting for you.

Soon your apathy will channel to antipathy. I can feel it. The swarm grows stronger.

 

I'd argue some more, but I just quit caring.

 

The offense was never this bad. Do you think a team with Yao Ming, Steve Francis, and Cuttino Mobley should be 27th in the league in scoring?

 

I'd say the decrease in scoring and our offensive abilities is not near as drastic as our increase in our defensive effort.

Plus, we don't have idiots dribbling the ball for 23 seconds of the shotclock every game either.

The offense will come around and with our defense, we'll be a force.

 

I too have become apathetic in watching rockets games. I'm not a fairweather fan either; I've been with them in their down seasons, but even in this season of above .500 play,.. they seem to lack any enthusiasm. They've played great on national television for some reason, and for that I'm wanting to catch Monday's broadcast versus the Grizzlies.

I have too often skipped out on going to dinners because of wanting to watch games at home. I'm not sure if it's worth it all the time. I am however, aware that there is a game tonight, and I think I'll be watching it. I may/probably will flip it off after halftime if things look uninteresting.

Just an opinion guys-- I definitely feel something needs to be done to the line-up to change the style of play. I think Van Gundy is a defensive genius..but... it isn't pretty.

I'm tired of vouching for Yao Ming,..true...Boston did a good job of fronting him,..but why, after the pick he sets, does the player with the ball swing the ball around the horn instead of back just inside the three where Yao is open after the pick?
he's 7'6 and when facing the basket,..pretty effective. I hate yelling at the screen..and have thus stopped consuming alcohol when watching games.......

enough....

 

Whatever. Stop coming here to whine and dine.
Or, would you like some cheese with that whine? That's from xCharged .

Every time I come back to these forums... I think I am in a room full of kitties... all I hear is whining and whining...

Whatever... Ya'll need these here butt'ns...

 

More crap from you, Moe? It seems that all you're interested in is petty insults. Real mature. Stop being a wuss and argue your points with a little dignity, eh? Pollyanna, heh heh.

You can whoop de fricken whatever doo you want, but almost making the playoff is better than the 3 years before. It's the direction you're heading and the signs of progress that really matters. Of course, you can whoop de fricken do every single team that doesn't win it all, eh? Good for you. Why don't you hold your debate skills to such a high standard?

In terms of trading Francis, there's always a market for such a talented player. And it doesn't matter a whoop de fricken doo if we don't get "equal" present value in return if he truly doesn't fit our system. Many teams have traded "franchise" players and ended up better off than they were before. The key is to know when to pull the trigger to get the most value in return, as Francis' trade value is already beginning to plummet. Remember that equal value today almost never convert to equal value in the future. Many deals that have looked lopsided one way have turned lopsided the other way in a few years' time.

Nobody says Van Gundy should be a rah-rah coach, but being overly negative and constantly hurling criticisms at your players via the press will not win the respect of the players or the fans. Francis has made a lot of changes to his game this year, and Yao is trying hard to develop an inside game. The coach can always blame his players for the team's apathetic play, but he should have enough class not to repeatedly b**** about it to the media in order to hide what a poor ass job he's done with our offense and with the games of our 2 best players. And you should stop hiding your poor ass arguments with petty insults as well, Moe. Pollyanna

 

Hey SwoLy-D, maybe you should send those buttons to Van Gundy so that he can stop whining and b****ing about his players.

And maybe you should send those buttons to yourself so you can stop b****ing about all the b****ing here as well.

 

Touché.

Well, aren't WE the b****ingest b****ing bitc... ummm...

If anyone of you say "Hey, everyone, I just saved $100 by switching to GEICO"... well, I will just stop b****ing about the b****ing...