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[Sacramento Bee] Point Guard List

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by johnfitz55, Jan 31, 2005.

  1. xiki

    xiki Member

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    I appreciate the writer's desire to wed Rox with a guard, but exactly who or what does he expect will get any of these deals done?

    Frankly I would prefer to go to the Lottery than put a band-aid on this squad, one which would keep from making 'the next step' next season, and the one after.
     
  2. AroundTheWorld

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    Houston trades: SF Clarence Weatherspoon (2.1 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 7.8 minutes)
    First-round pick in 2005
    Houston receives: PG Sam Cassell (15.3 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 6.0 apg in 29.4 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: +13.2 ppg, +1.0 rpg, and +5.8 apg.

    Minnesota trades: PG Sam Cassell (15.3 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 6.0 apg in 29.4 minutes)
    Minnesota receives: SF Clarence Weatherspoon (2.1 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 7.8 minutes)
    First-round pick in 2005
    Change in team outlook: -13.2 ppg, -1.0 rpg, and -5.8 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED

    Due to Houston and Minnesota being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Houston and Minnesota had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.



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  3. xiki

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    Rock Stridland's stats, projected for 48MPG:

    FG 9.5% R 4.4 A9.6 TO 3.6 S 0 B .4 PPG 6.8
     
  4. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    the only trade i'm intersted in right now if getting rid of mo or ho. we can sign a PG this summer with a list of:

    jaric, dickau, watson, AD, damon, bjax, stoudamire, payton, NVE.


    every PG in the league wants to play for us (except steve and moochie), it's just a matter of putting out the money for one.
     
  5. AroundTheWorld

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    Houston trades: SF Clarence Weatherspoon (2.1 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 7.8 minutes)
    PF Maurice Taylor (7.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.4 apg in 23.8 minutes)
    First-round pick in 2005
    Houston receives: PG Jason Kidd (12.3 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 6.9 apg in 34.0 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: +2.4 ppg, +0.7 rpg, and +5.3 apg.

    New Jersey trades: PG Jason Kidd (12.3 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 6.9 apg in 34.0 minutes)
    New Jersey receives:
    First-round pick in 2005
    SF Clarence Weatherspoon (2.1 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 7.8 minutes)
    PF Maurice Taylor (7.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.4 apg in 23.8 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: -2.4 ppg, -0.7 rpg, and -5.3 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED

    Due to Houston and New Jersey being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Houston and New Jersey had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

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  6. AroundTheWorld

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    Houston trades: SF Clarence Weatherspoon (2.1 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 7.8 minutes)
    First-round pick in 2005
    Houston receives: PG Gary Payton (12.2 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 6.2 apg in 33.0 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: +10.1 ppg, +1.0 rpg, and +6.0 apg.

    Boston trades: PG Gary Payton (12.2 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 6.2 apg in 33.0 minutes)
    Boston receives: SF Clarence Weatherspoon (2.1 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 7.8 minutes)
    First-round pick in 2005

    Change in team outlook: -10.1 ppg, -1.0 rpg, and -6.0 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED

    Due to Houston and Boston being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Houston and Boston had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.


    Least likely to happen, I would think...
     
  7. blazer_ben

    blazer_ben Rookie

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    Out of the above list, Payton is the only one that i consider a realistic, or even a Viable Option. mainly due to his contract, and the length of it!
     
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    Houston trades: PF Maurice Taylor (7.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.4 apg in 23.8 minutes)
    SF Clarence Weatherspoon (2.1 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 7.8 minutes)
    Houston receives: PG Nick Van Exel (11.1 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 3.8 apg in 28.3 minutes)
    C Joel Przybilla (3.8 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 0.7 apg in 16.5 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: +5.0 ppg, +1.8 rpg, and +2.9 apg.

    Portland trades: PG Nick Van Exel (11.1 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 3.8 apg in 28.3 minutes)
    C Joel Przybilla (3.8 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 0.7 apg in 16.5 minutes)
    Portland receives: PF Maurice Taylor (7.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.4 apg in 23.8 minutes)
    SF Clarence Weatherspoon (2.1 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 7.8 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: -5.0 ppg, -1.8 rpg, and -2.9 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED

    Due to Houston and Portland being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Houston and Portland had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.





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  9. Random.

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    It seems unlikely the Rockets would throw yet another first round draft pick into a trade, especially with the complete lack of young talent on the roster after Yao and T-Mac.

    Then, giving away a pick for a one year rental on an aging PG makes even less sense. I don't see the Rockets doing anything radical this season unless a team is willing to settle for a second round pick.
     
  10. Willis25

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    I'm sure they really need another PF or 2 over there in Portland :rolleyes:
     
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  11. buzz1701

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    I'm with you Random. I don't want trade away another number one draft pick...where's our youth? But I'd make a deal if we could get Kidd!
     
  12. New Jack

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    A first round pick for Payton would be crazy. Just this summer people were balking at the idea of even trading LUE for Payton.
     
  13. RikQuik

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    Sorry, but there is no way the Rocks get Kidd. 3 max contracts for the next 5 years? Les would go broke paying the luxury tax.

    Cassell is a possibility, but if you were Minn, why would you trade him? With Payton, at least I can understand Boston (a team that is still building) making a trade. In Minn, they are looking at NOW, not the future. Therefore, I can believe that they would really trade Sam.

    That said, if I had the opportunity, I'd take Sam in a heartbeat. He has fire, and this team could use some fire.
     
  14. Willis25

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    no way Cassell comes here Minny could be giving us the edge to get into the playoff and keep them out
     
  15. gotoloveit2

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    We need to trade Yao because he's been freezing this guy out. :D
     
  16. rkh-dog

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    ...word on the street is that Mitch Wiggins is available and working out at the TC.
     
  17. heech

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    Payton would be the ideal acquisiton, and right in character for the geriatric Rockets of 2005.

    Seriously tho.. this guy has everything we need from a PG. Still a good defender (even if no longer lock-down mode), a guy who can make the offense work without having to penetrate off the dribble, a guy who has brains and wants to win. I'd love to get him.
     
  18. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Heech,

    Ditto
     
  19. JayZ750

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    The Rockets need a PF who can bang and play defense badly (its no surprise Yao is the only one trying to stop dribble penetration time after time - and picking up fouls - now that Cato is gone). Unfortunately, there really aren't many of those types around that will be traded for the crap we have.

    Still, before making any stupid move to try and acquire an aging or overpaid PG, they should hold their chips (expiring contracts and draft picks - oh, and Ryan Bowen) to see what kind of PF they can pry away at the deadline.

    That said, I think they're done dealing this year - all logic would tell you they should make a hard push after Stromile Swift in the offseason.
     
  20. Chilly_Pete

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    I agree with all your points.
     

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