Sacramento Bee: Houston a dark horse for Artest trade

No thanks, artest as the 3rd scoring option is a good gain. But without Tmac... I rather sees Mclady (as some one likes to put it) shooting all those shots and handling the ball then artest shooting them and bibby ball handling.

 

Scloa is untouchable, Battier snyder and and Hayes for Artest, deal.

 

NO! . . If we gotta give up scola and brooks or novak . . IMO, that's a major NO! . . Artest is one crazy guy, as much as I would wish he'd on the Rockets, I really don't want to give up Ice Scola or Speedy Bronzales or Super Novak, are you outta your childish mind?! . . Brooks can be and IMO will be our starting point guard over alston pretty soon sometime next year, and Scola is playing like he's been in this league for a while and once Novak fixes up his D, he'll be the next white Peja!. . and I personally don't think Tmac and Artest will get along, unless RA does some talking . .

All in all . . This trade IMO is NOT going to happen anyways . . Trust me, I think coach RA is smart enough.

 

No one other than Yao is untouchable at this point. I would SERIOUSLY consider Scola, Brooks and Francis for Artest.

Ideally I would rather include Snyder's expiring contract and Battier while taking back someone like Abdur Rahim. YES I know he's hurt and has another 2 years on his big contract, but Artest isn't going to be given up for peanuts and without the receiving team taking back an unwanted contract. Plus Rahim won't be needed for much more than backing up Yao after Deke is gone and who knows, maybe he can regain half of the form he once had.

As for the argument about Brooks and/or Novak being untouchables, WAKE THE HELL UP. Anyone who questions trading Brooks and/or Novak in a deal for Artest has no clue what it takes for a team to succeed in this league. I'll take my chances trading a 5'11" shooting guard who is attempting to play point guard and/or a 6'10" guy that has only recently shown that he can shoot threes (remember that is the only thing he can do). Sure Brooks is fast as lightening and Novak has shown some sweet accuracy in a handful of games, but neither of them combined can give us what Artest can give us.

 

I'd give up Brooks + Francis + some contract filler in a heartbeat, but giving up Scola, who I believe is needed to guard the Duncans and Boozers of the West, hard to agree with that.

 

I can only imagine trading for Artest if we know we can keep him. But I don't know if Les Alexander is willing to pony up the dough for three max contracts.

So, if Artest can be had for relatively cheap (which I doubt) or if we trade TMac to a third team and use those contracts/players and draft picks to get Artest, KNOWING he will re-sign and be happy as the other main guy on a team with Yao and Battier and Scola et al....OK.

Seems like a long shot?

 

what do you think about this? Mcgrady and head for Artest

 

Is Artest going to be seeking a max contract? He's been playing for something like $7-8 million a year the past few seasons. Do you think he'll be seeking a raise?

He's been quoted numerous times saying he wants to win a championship more than anything. If he could get a similar contract (or less) playing for a contender I bet he'd go for it.

 

Of course he will be. His agent actually said Ron is worth $14 mil a year.

The question is what is the best offer he will actually get.

 

I can't imagine why his agent would say something like that....

But yeah, you're probably right. I guess it all depends on how serious Artest would be about taking a paycut to win a championship.

"Winning is more important," he said. "I'm not thinking about money in my situation. I'm just thinking about winning. I need a ring, or I'll be sick. Whatever I get, I'll get."

I realize it's hard to say no to the big bucks but how awesome would that be if we could lure him here? He would get to play for his old coach and for a championship caliber team. That's a pretty good mix, i'd say.

 

money no where near each other look things up before you post. you will not look like you don't know what you are talking about if you look it up first plus there is no way you give up tmac for artest

 

artest's agent was telling him he can get 14 or 15 million next year. imo he's not taking a mle level deal just to play for a contender next year.

there was a past comment where he said he wanted to score more rather than play defense cause offense minded players got paid more.

 

your right i didnt see the money thing.. but artest for mcgrady id do it. Yeah mcgrady creates much more then artest.. but he is injury prone and has a negative attidue.. is not genuenly happy for his teamates.. when novak scored the game winner tmac looked like he was at a funeral as for artest the guy is a monster and we need some more players like that.. he killed us yesterday.. and dont insult my intelignece fool.. im probably mcuh for knolegdge then you

 

Sorry, I couldn't help it.

But on the serious side, McGrady is playing some very nice teamball lately, except he does need to learn to be within the system. I'd take his attitude over what Artest could do to take a team apart anyday.

 

To me, it depends..

If Ron gets, say, a long-term $14 mil or even $12 mil a year offer, he'd most likely take it. It would be irrational not to.

I know he's made about $8 mil a year so far for several years, but for some reason, Ron does not strike me as the kind that has actually saved any of that money. He should take all the money he can get, if it's that good an offer.


However, if the best offer tops out at, say, $9 mil a year for no more than 3 years... then maybe he'll actually take the MLE to win.

I'd give up $3 mil a year for a chance to win... but not $6 mil a year.... but that's just me.

 

I don't know anyone who signs a multi-million dollar contract and then tries to get a job at Circuit City to take advantage of the employee discount comes off as being pretty tight with their purse to me.

 

Do you remember when Michael Jordan had his ribs broken before his comeback with the Wizards?

The story was this:

Jordan was working out with NBA players at his trainer's gym with other NBA players in the summer. Ron Artest, then a Chicago Bull, was there.

Guess who broke Jordan's ribs and why?

Artest, because Jordan made fun of him for being broke.

Why was Artest broke? Even NBA rookie deal is no chump change, right?

Well... Ronnie did thing like giving away cash to random homeless people on the street.

Now, he might have applied for a retail job. I'm pretty sure that ain't even covering the cost of Tru Warier Recoeds.

 

Detroit Pistons
Incoming Players
Mike James
Salary: $5,826,893 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 6.5 REB: 1.6 AST: 1.6 PER: 9.77

Outgoing Players: Primoz Brezec, Lindsey Hunter

Sacramento Kings
Incoming Players
Chuck Hayes
Salary: $1,750,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 2.8 REB: 5.7 AST: 1.1 PER: 11.43
Kirk Snyder
Salary: $2,358,433 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 3.8 REB: 1.3 AST: 0.9 PER: 14.80
Lindsey Hunter
Salary: $2,250,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 2.1 REB: 0.5 AST: 1.6 PER: 11.14
Luther Head
Salary: $1,122,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 7.7 REB: 1.6 AST: 1.8 PER: 12.68

Outgoing Players: Ron Artest
Houston Rockets

Incoming Players
Primoz Brezec
Salary: $2,750,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 1.7 REB: 1.7 AST: 0.3 PER: 4.14
Ron Artest
Salary: $7,400,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 19.0 REB: 5.7 AST: 3.9 PER: 17.64

Outgoing Players: Chuck Hayes, Kirk Snyder, Mike James, Luther Head