Lol @ Marcus Thornton being better than Tyreke. If you guys want to talk about anybody being a ball hog, it's Thornton. It's hard for anyone to get a shot when Thornton is in the game. Evans does other things as well, which Thornton does not...(i.e. ball-handling, creating for himself and others, and rebounding). Evans, although he doesn't do it often, can also post players up, which is a unique skill that most guys at his position don't have. The same "arguments" that people used against Cousins are being levied against Tyreke. Now people would kill to have Demarcus on the Rockets, but it's too late. Tyreke is going to be a good player in this league for a long time, but if the Rockets don't get him now while his value is low, then he won't be playing for Houston because it would be too late to try and acquire him then. He would be the best player on the Rockets' current roster. I think he'll develop into a very good and consistent number three guy as a starter on a championship caliber team, which would make him easily worth 10-12 mill per year.
I agree, this is a chance for the Rockets to really gamble on a player that has a lower trade value than actual value. Tyreke is a ball stopper as a pg, but has tons of skill, put him as the No.2 No.3 guy and make him a slasher instead of ball handler it's a steal for usl.
Please say that again. Whatever people on this board thinks about tyreke,he can get more via trade than anyone on the rockets. I don't think he's a bad player, I think he's had bad coaching. I would put him with a scoring guard like monte ellis or jennings. He's not a true 1 or 2 he's a combo type. Its nothing wrong with that, its how you pair his talent with another talent.
That's bull man. Truly great players make their teammates better....not worse. He has been one of the most overrated players ever since he came into the league. Terribly inefficient and a terrible teammate. Talent....yes? But the history of NBA failures is packed with guys loaded with talent. So what. His trade value is plummeting right now and there is no end in sight. If you're gonna buy low and sell high, you gotta know the guy has hit bottom. Tyreke has not hit bottom yet.
Who's this imaginary crew of Demarcus Cousins haters upon whom you are now exacting sweet revenge? ...is that why nobody wanted him in February? But anyway that's beside the point. But so what if he does? Different players have different trade values to different teams, since they have different needs. Does Tyreke Evans have more trade value to the Miami Heat than say, a late season rental of Scola, Lowry, Lee or even Steve Novak if the trading deadline were suspended for a day? Probably not right now. So who really cares what his "absolute" trade value is when it exists only in your head - that doesn't really mean that he should be acquired.
It's funny. That despite having to agonize over years Steve Francis and the recent TWill fail... there's still part of me that thinks Evans has a chance to be awesome. The allure of someone with all-world measurables and no BBIQ is always so enticing. Make me more understanding of Isiah Thomas' fascination with and his Big 3 of Marbury, Francis, and Eddie Curry.
Was he on the block then? Were teams making decent offers or was it prudent to get Evans on the floor and up his trade value etc etc for the summer trade winds? Not saying he's for us. Maybe some other sucker 3rd team wants him, a sucker 3rd team that has what we want. Otherwise, no. Courtney Lee is less spectacular but less expensive and isn't a chemistry killer.
Thanks. I had a response typed up earlier to that quote. Also - I could be reading that wrong, maybe he can explain - What the "too late" mean? Was there ever a scenario where Cousins on the table to be acquired? How can "too late" exist when there wasnt an EVENT to begin with? Or now that Cousins is beasting every 4th game instead of every 6th, now its "too late" to rectify your Cousins opinion? Whats with the shamings and envys and exclusions and "prohibitions"?
There's also the fact that the Cousins trade talk ( which was really just Westphal bloviating) occurred at the beginning of Cousin's second season, while we're now looking at the end of Tyreke's third. And in those three years, he hasn't improved at all. In fact, he's arguably regressed. That has to be something that makes those scenarios different.
I don't know why people seldom include BBIQ as an absolutely important talent when they talk about how "talented" a guy is. People seem to think that talent only means physical abilities. Sure, a lot of physical abilities can't be taught. But they forget that a big part of mental abilities can't be taught either. And in Evans' case, it's not just about BBIQ. It's the type of game he thrives in. He is in a way similar to Iverson. Iverson was an awesome talent, much better than Tyreke Evans. But Iverson's game was not conducive to team play. He could only be great as a one-man band. Put him next to another great player, his game diminished. That's why this kind of players cannot be the lead player of a contender. (I know Iverson led his team to the Finals. But that was in an arguably worst conference ever.)
Where has it been written that he's a terrible teammate? Do u mean terrible like ronda because he's temperment? Are we talking about webber or rasheed wallace who both got traded early. Some guys mature faster than others and that's not even dsputable. One minute cousins is on the block, but the next minute he's untouchable. If tyreke was 25,26 and haven't evolved, then I can agree, but that's not the case. Tyreke is what 22,23? A team will give up a ggod player and a pick for evans because of his age. People on this board are too quick to write the ending chapter of a 22 yr old player.
I see the Rockets making a play. Morey is desperate to land all-star potentials. But they would be looking to attach Salmons for sure.
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Yep, he's not some 25-27 year old guy who has likely maxed out (like most of our guys have) he's a guy that can still learn a lot about the game mentally. Also to those saying his rookie season was a fabrication of sorts you also have to conclude that he had to get those numbers in the first place, and once it was close enough the Kings had nothing else to play for any ways so gave the man the rock and he did stuff with it. Evans has played in basketball hell for his entire short career now. Where players play for stats and not for wins. If he comes here that all changes. He's going to have to compete and also he'd slot right into what the rockets need. A high potential guy and also a guy you can go to and get a basket. I guess even those that want to hang onto this mediocre team should realize that the Rockets have missed this in the worst way so when the shots stop falling for the mediocre players they go on 5 minute scoring droughts that completely take them out of the rest of the game.
Does anybody remember when Lowry was known for his driving to the basket? What about Vince Carter? There are very few players that continue to play like that - and I'm not really interested in pursuing one who is inefficient even though he does drive to the basket. The odds are that if he improves his jumpshot and gets a long-term contract, he'll stop driving so much. What professional wouldn't want to protect his body? Some have said that you should do it because it won't cost you very much...but every move has a cost, even if it is just an opportunity cost. Going after Evans might cost you a chance at something better. I think you're better off looking for another diamond like Lowry who got stuck behind other players - not someone who's had every chance to prove his worth and improve but didn't.
