There are 15-20 teams asking the same question... I don't think fans realize how rare a great QB is (that's not directed at you, Major - I saw a post on FB yesterday after the Mallett decision that said, literally, "It's time for the Texans to get a CHAMPIONSHIP QB!" like they're hanging out in the parking lot, or something). More so, I think just as many fans think great QBs are born; I think there are examples (I mean, Dan Marino was *born* to be a QB) - but even the great ones are a component of many things beyond just talent, including luck, timing... Is Tom Brady a HoF QB under any circumstance? Or did he fall into the perfect storm? So, if scheme and coaching are a big part of this (and they are), I'm OK with BOB being patient. And I don't think patience = apathy.
Ok, if by "like" we're talking about something other than a QB you can build around, then that's not really liking someone. I dont see how drafting Savage solves anything. Why even waste a pick on him, when you "like" Jimmy G? The general consensus was that Jimmy G had more ability and upside than Savage, correct? If that is the case, then why not find a way to get Jimmy G instead of waiting it out and drafting a lesser player? Why even take that lesser player? Surely, if he thinks Savage is someone he could mold into his QB, then Jimmy G would have definitely been someone he could do the same with. Again, it comes down to complacency. And regarding the "looks like there were no special QBs in the 2014 draft" talk...lol. The kids have played a year's worth, at most. Some (Teddy), even less than that. And again...just because a QB doesnt do well in Oakland, doesnt mean he wont do well in a different situation. The Texans have a lot of pieces in place, along with a "QB guru"...you dont need an Andrew Luck for the Texans to win. You need someone that is a top 12-15 QB. And as far as BOB waiting for a QB he likes...at what point will he ever get that if the Texans dont have a top 5 pick? Is he going to wait it out until the Saints cut ties with Brees...and then hang his hat on a 37 year old QB? I dont see the end game, unless you plan on having a top pick in the draft.
It's not about finding the next Rodgers. It's about finding the next Schaub, Foles, Dalton. With this defense, WR corps and a healthy Foster an above average qb can take them to the playoffs. And in a single elimination tournament such as the nfl playoffs anything can happen. Time is not ad infintum. Watt is a once in a generation player in his prime. Clowneys knee may only allow him to 5 or 6 really good years. And McNair looks like he has 5 maybe 10 years left on this planet. There needs to be a sense of urgency. They need to take calculated risks.
Again, BOB "liked Savage" just as he "liked Jimmy G" the only difference is that Jimmy G is one someone else's bench.
Lol, this definition of "like" is basically pointless. What was the purpose of drafting Savage? Surely, there is no reason to take Savage unless you think he could be the "guy", correct? So in that sense, "liking" someone means that you think he could be your guy.
The purpose of drafting Savage was because BOB liked him as a prospect and thought he might be able to do something with him one day. We're talking about a 3rd round pick QB here, no one is thinking they have the guy of the future in the 3rd round. The Seachickens certainly didn't when they drafted Wilson.
There were plenty of questions about the QB class going in... we saw QB's that were thought to possibly go #1 overall drop to almost out of the 1st round, and we see the QB that did go very high has had a harsher than harsh debut on a team that may ultimately fail him just as badly as he fails them. And with those questions already in place, has any of these guys come close to outplaying their expectations yet? Has anybody shown anything to convince you they're going to be a for-sure start for 10+ years? Yes, there's still time for them to show you that... but in A LOT of the cases of QB's that make it, its already pretty clear by this point. Bottom line: There's still not a guy the Texans passed on that I wish they hadn't. So, you advocate a Matt Schaub-ish ceiling guy... which is fine if that's all there ever will be. "You don't need a top 5 pick for the Texans to win. You need someone that is a top 12-15 QB." (and you don't necessarily need a top 5 pick to get that guy).
OB is hilarious. "I forgot I told my wife, she must have called Ian Rappaport." OB admits that Mallet is the starter.
I think we know by now Bob likes big boys with big arms. If he finds one with great brains and character he'll have his man. Whether that's Mallet or Savage who knows? But....it's most definitely NOT Hoyer. Hoyer is a good guy but he's neither big nor does he have a big arm. And he's not a leader.
He was a 4th rounder. So basically, what youre saying, is that it's a better approach to spend a mid round pick on the most important position on the field, hoping that somehow, someway, the guy might turn into something one day....over taking a better player a little bit earlier in the draft (still not a high pick), who has a higher chance of becoming someone, one day. If that's how you feel about the QB position, then by all means, thats fine. My rationale is that if you're not going to spend a top 3 round pick on a QB, you're basically wasting your time with drafting one from rounds 4-7. In other words, it's fine if none of the top QB prospects tickle your fancy, but then just leave it at that point and shore up other areas, rather than drafting a QB in the 4th. It's a pointless move.
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If we had "good" Matt Schaub on this team, we'd be a playoff team every year for as long as we have that kind of QB play. So yes, I'd be fine with that. If you're holding out until you get an Aaron Rodgers or Andrew Luck, you'll be waiting a long time...and will probably be fired by the organization before coming across that level of talent. And regarding the 2014 draft...Teddy B will be a starter for many years to come. And I'd be surprised if Carr isnt in the same boat as well. Bortles, I dont like, but I could be wrong on him. Jimmy G, we wont ever really know because he'll be a back up for quite some time. His situation somewhere else could have gone in either direction. Savage...has less of a chance than all of them...so why even take him?
But when you have a middling QB, you're going to have to be prepared to not get an all-pro every game. Bengals fans are also hoping the "good" Dalton stays with them this year (esp. in the playoffs). Ravens fans only expect to see "good" Flacco in the playoffs... he's become a liability almost every other game. Hell, even Luck has his fair share of WTF games/moments. Striving for "better", and in the mean time seeing what you can get out of Mallett, is not "ignoring" the situation by any means. These are still big if's. There's questions as to if any of them will ever get to Matt Schaub 2011 level, let alone "many years to come" starters. Because sometimes you find players in the 3rd round or later that do contribute, and some go on to tremendous careers (Brady, Wilson, Romo).
I honestly dont think the KC O is very good. They were coached better. I hope the other teams dont see that a dink and dump before JJ can get to the QB murders us.. Other than that, KC really didnt do anything. As for their D, say what you will about our Oline, I watched Hoyer get sacked after counting to 5. I also watched him throw a crappy pass after counting to at least 5. Our Oline in the run game seemed week but KC's touted Pass rush and D did not look that good.
KC O is good because they are very balanced. They have an above average QB, not great but he almost never made mistakes, they have one of the top RB and TE, their running game is good and their RB also has very good hand that can catch and run with it. And because of that, their attack is balanced and its hard to cover all those area most of the time in any down. They can pick up a 3rd and 13 by a screen dump to Charles and then the next play, they run a fake screen to the right and roll Charles to the left for another easy 10-15 yards. Their TE is a stud, but without a solid QB for quick decision and a stud RB, he won't be that wide open in the last game. We do not have those kind of talents in our lineup, our QB will never be in the level of Brady and Montana, you can not ask them to throw to our wideouts 50 times per game and not expecting to get sacked often and with turnovers.
