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Ryan Anderson signs with Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DustinS, Jul 2, 2016.

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Do you like the 4-year, $80M signing by the Rockets of Ryan Anderson?

  1. YES

    350 vote(s)
    54.6%
  2. NO

    291 vote(s)
    45.4%
  1. pdama

    pdama Member

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    When has Morey ever made a signing even remotely similar to this one? I'll wait.
     
  2. Ming The King

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    Agree, his contract is not meveable,
    that is why I hope Morey had a deal in place before he sign.

    and Anderson can score a good night 30 points, but he has no defense, no rebounds, no heart. Mediocre player
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Well he has had his fair share of stinkers.

    Brewer is the latest worst contract where we bid against Suckremento

    He is a good GM, but let's not pretend that everything he does is gold.

    DD
     
  4. J.R.

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    He will have good games. Still not worth $20M/$80M. Not for a 6'10 shooting "PF".

    3PT shooting

    Jared Dudley:
    2015-16: 42% | Career: 39.9%
    3 years, $30M with Phoenix

    Luke Babbitt:
    2015-16: 40.4% | Career: 40.2%
    Traded to Miami for conditional 2nd round pick & cash considerations

    Luis Scola:
    2015-16: 40.4% | Career: 33.6%
    1 year, $5.5M with Brooklyn

    Lance Thomas:
    2015-16: 40.4% | Career: 38.6%
    4 years, $27M with New York

    Marvin Williams:
    2015-16: 40.2% | Career: 35.4%
    4 years, $54.5M with Charlotte

    Mirza Teletovic:
    2015-16: 39.3% | Career: 37.3%
    3 years, $30M with Milwaukee

    Channing Frye:
    2015-16: 38.7% | Career: 38.6%
    Traded to Cleveland last trade deadline for Jared Cunningham(Making Corey Brewer's salary this year & next)

    Mo Speights:
    2015-16: 38.7% | Career: 30.5%
    1 year, veteran's minimum with LA Clippers

    Darrell Arthur:
    2015-16: 38.5% | Career: 31.4%
    3 years, $23M with Denver

    Jon Leuer:
    2015-16: 38.2% | Career: 37.6%
    4 years, $42M with Detroit (former Rocket)

    Meyers Leonard:
    2015-16: 37.7% | Career: 38.4%
    4 years, $41M with Portland

    Ersan Illyasova:
    2015-16: 37.1% | Career: 37%
    Traded 3 times in the last 18 months

    Ryan Anderson:
    2015-16: 36.6% | Career: 37.7%
    4 years, 80M with Houston

    Boris Diaw:
    2015-16: 36.2% | Career: 34.1%
    Traded to Utah for Olivier Hanlan

    Anthony Toliver:
    2015-16: 36% | Career: 35.6%
    2 years, $16M with Sacramento

    Andrew Nicholson:
    2015-16: 36% | Career: 33.6%
    4 years, $26M with Washington
     
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  5. heypartner

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    Is that a list of 3pt shooting %. Few in that list can shoot like Anderson. Shooters like Anderson *must* be guarded. They are what systems to get ppl open (like MDAs) are designed around, vs being a beneficiary of the system like Ariza's 37% shooting, which requires him to be wide open.

    Using 3pt % of those players to compare to Anderson is really no different than basketballholic falsely saying DMo is duplicitous [sic] to Anderson.

    You can do better than that. I'd start by trying to understand how Anderson actually helps Harden get free, himself.
     
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  6. Vivi

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    When i see:

    Marvin Williams:
    2015-16: 40.2% | Career: 35.4%
    4 years, $54.5M with Charlotte

    and:

    Ryan Anderson:
    2015-16: 36.6% | Career: 37.7%
    4 years, 80M with Houston

    I just can't stop to smh...and i'm not even a fan of Marvin.

    The problem i have with Ryan is just that there's not a single positive in his game when he's not shooting well, literally zero. Can't defend, can't rebound, can't run, can't pass, can't play the 5, and tbh i don't even like his shot selection a lot of times...i just don't understand how we ended up with this contract, just to beat the Kings offer probably...eh...i have no doubt that he'll have some good/very good games, but he's really just a good (but streaky) 3pt shooter, and when his shot is not going he's just useless.

    I feel sorry for saying this because he seems a really nice guy, but Horford would've been so much better...
     
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  7. snowconeman22

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    People are bringing up the point that Anderson will have more open looks ... And to an extent I really don't think it matters . I saw him clank wide open shots last night , and I saw him hit contested ones . He might be a guy that is just plain hot/cold and the defense doesn't really matter .
     
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  8. pdama

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    Of course not, he's not perfect. I don't think any GM is.

    Regarding the Brewer deal, that seemed like a decent deal at the time. Cap was supposed to skyrocket, and he had played really well since being traded here. He wasn't the Brewer he is now. And I can't blame Morey for wanting to keep the team in tact. The 2015 Rockets were a lot closer to the 2015 Warriors than the 4-1 series and each team's 2016 campaign would indicate.
     
  9. dharocks

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    Well, when RC Buford or Jerry West become available, let me know. And you know what, when Morey's current contract is up, if the team hasn't at least gotten back to the Conference Finals and you wanna go after Pritchard or Hinkie, I could get on board with that.

    But look at some of the morons running teams in the NBA. Morey's proven himself as a guy who rarely makes bad trades (and even when he does, he never gets fleeced), he drafts well, and he understands the importance of maintaining flexibility and accumulating assets for the occasional home run. For all the talk of his failures in free agency, he got Dwight, and Melo and LMA were reportedly very impressed by the team's presentation (but one chose the money in NYC and the other chose the sure thing with the Spurs). Bosh was very nearly ours, and thank God that didn't pan out, but you can't look at that as evidence that Morey can't attracts FAs.

    All told, we're in good hands. And at times you've been very unfair to Morey over the years.
     
  10. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Twill? Ennis? didn't we give away a number 1 pick to get a player off our roster?

    He is a pretty good GM, but I think he should be fired if this team does not work out.

    DD
     
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    Gordon seemed like the one who deserves more $
     
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    I'm not going to judge Anderson off this first real game only. But if he doesn't shoot 40% on 3 pointers for the season, his salary is WAYYYYY too high. He will get more open looks with Harden than ever in his career. But I also don't want him forcing up contested 3 pointers because he feels he has the green light. I would much rather see him on the post with his step back jumper that he is pretty good at. No one on this team should be shooting contested 3 pointers unless the shot clock is running out.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    That signing I love, and think it is a value deal, Gordon is an all star level player if he can stay healthy.

    DD
     
  14. dharocks

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    Not gonna cry over missing out on Shane Larkin (though Gobert would've been nice). Keeping Ennis was probably a bigger mistake than trading for him. Not willing to categorize either move as a fleecing.
     
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    THIS!
     
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    What does Steph Curry do well when he is not shooting well? :)
     
  17. dharocks

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    Throw his mouthguard?
     
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    Jfc DD, calmate.

    Ego is a fairly one dimensional backup sg. Define all star level and give me a reasonable comp, because hes not it.

    That being said, is Ryno worth 12 million more than Channing Frye? What does he do so much better than other comparable stiff spot up shooters? That off brand Dirk fadeaway? Sure its effective, but let's not kid ourselves that Ryno wasnt our 4th option in FA (at best) or that we weren't scrambling like last call at the bar to find a slump buster.

    The fact that we scrape with the Kings tells you all about Morey's failed philosophy when it comes to free agents. Making the playoffs (and therefore the 12th pick which could have netted George Hill, who is a perfect fit IMO) was a huge mistake.

    Rynos signing was sheer desperation. We had an offer on the table to Bazemore before we even called this guy. Makes me ****ng sick how far we done fell
     
  19. RV6

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    the question isn't if there were better options, but who was a realistic option. If guys don't want to come here, then there's not much more we can do other than reach out to them and get dumped a few days later. RA was not Morey's first choice..at the end, something had to get done beyond just signing Gordon, as far as shooters/offense is concerned. There's no time to waste at this point, if we want Harden to stick around.
     
  20. Vivi

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    Yeah, that's true, but is also true that not making a move is better than making a bad one...i'm not saying this is necessarily the case though, in the end i think nobody thinks this is a bad signing overall, it's just the total amount of the contract that is really "meh"...to me it's hard to believe that even a player like Dudley (just saying) wasn't interested in coming here since he always talks well about us and Harden....and i mean, a lot of people made fun of Cubes for Barnes, but i'd still take a young 3&D with a little bit (?) of upside like Barnes over Anderson any day since the money is basically the same.

    Personally i just hope we signed him at this contract knowing he's movable, again, nothing against the guy, he looks really a cool dude, but i really never liked him as a player, or better, i always thought he's considered (not necessarily here, but listening and/or reading around) more valuable than what he really is.
     
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