Russia: Sexual harrassment is necessary for the survival of the human race

Really?

Which ones?

 

Germany, the Czech Republic, Japan, Hungary, Poland, the Ukraine, and Lithuania are some.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_decline



Population Decline. Red is in decline, pink is approaching.



Impeach Bush/Nixon... I mean Cheney.

 

You consider that list of countries to be the mecca of culture and intelligence?

Sexual harrassment is a part of japanese culture. And they are barely in population decline. -.01%

 

Seems to me sexual harassment has nothing to do with population, and should not be. It's all about exerting power. And being a woman in a male-dominated society.

Back in ancient times, when population was always increasing, was sexual harassment rare?

 

Actually Japan's population decline is 0.14%. You are off more than a factor of 10. And if you are gonna put it that way, Russia's population decline is "only" 0.47%, this decline only started not too long ago either.

Besides, Russia's problem isn't fertility rate. It's that they can't keep them alive. While Russia's birth rate is 11.03 per 1000, Japan's is only 7.87. With their oil money and attention to healthy care, Russia can improve, whereas Japan is just screwed, no pun intended.

 

What's your problem, dude? Show me where I said that the list of countries in my post are "the mecca of culture and intelliigence?" What I said was, "Other countries face the same demographic and have managed not to fall into an intellectual and cultural abyss." Can you seriously not see the difference? And are you, in some bizarre way, attempting to defend the incredible sexism displayed by this member of the Russian judicial system? If so, WHY?

I'll add that as much as it pains me to do so, MFW's post was pretty accurate.



Impeach Bush/Mao... I mean Cheney.

 

This may be somewhat controversial, but I think that this is a direct result of the removal of religion from a country. Yes, I know that religion has been misused to justify all sorts of evil against women, and that the atheist commies stereotype got to be laughable during the Red Scare, but in an Orthodox country, religion was their moral compass. When that was removed from the culture, morals were made up as they went along. And in an authoritarian regime, those in control were able to make up many of the morals to suit themselves. The attempt to "degender" society really forced women to conform to the societal norms of the men in charge.

I can't imagine it getting much better without some sort of Revival.

 

Oh come on. I really don't think that the abscence of an insanely patriarchal religious social structure based on a bunch of outrageously mysognistic writings is a rational reason why russian women are opressed.

 

You are absolutely correct! The treatment of women in heavily religious Islamic countries is faaaaabulous.

 

Yeah right, the Old Testament is one fine example.

 

Maybe not, but I certainly believe that the absense of a religious social structure that teaches against sexual abuse and promiscuity (and even represses sexuality some) is a rational reason why Russian women are sexually harrassed and abused.

Pre-Soviet Russia was primarily Orthodox, Islam and Judaism were relatively small minority religions. Orthodoxy is primarily a New Testament and tradition-based religion.

 

One might argue that repression is hardly an effective means to reduce sexual tension and violence. Certainly, the (christian) church's efforts in this regard have historically done little more than paint all women as harlots and deceivers - not exactly a proud portrait of women's liberation... If anything, the absence is not the church as you proclaim, but rather an absence of effective policing and/or laws designed for and based upon equality.

For an easy counterexample to your claim, look at the history of women's suffrage in the US - it's not the church that has enabled such a moevement - in fact, they have for most part worked against it and actively opposed it. It's women (and men) taking initiative to free themselves from the exact same outdated religious patriarchy you praise here that has enabled the modern feminist movement.

Or how about the predominantly secular and religiously apathetic countries of Europe... hardly a bastion of sexual inequality...

IMO, if you want to protect women's rights, the last thing I'd offer as a solution is western religion...

 

some strange ideas going around in this thread. maybe russia is just a bassackwards country. this isn't hard folks

 

There probably are no statistics on this but I suspect that women were treated pretty badly under the Czars when Russia was an orthodox country. My understanding (although very limited) of Russian history is that rights for women to get access to education and employment improved under the Soviets.

 

This tangential but I'm wondering if Russia's oil wealth will mean that fewer Russian women end up in the sex trade, out of economic desperation or being forced too, and instead of sending women out women start coming into Russia.

I want to make it completely clear I'm not condoning the sex trade just wondering how global economics plays into it.