Troy Murphy is a possible get, for a price. I also think Stro Swift is available. You didn't mention Vladimir Radmanovic, who can really shoot. However, Seattle wants him to play three, and they want to trade Rashard. Samuel Dalembert in Philly has some skills. OK, I'm reaching. I like Harrington and Marshall, and Wilcox may have something to offer.
So what deals are doable? Stevie can probably get us Elton Brand. The Clips are deep at PF, and they would prefer a flashier player like Stevie to sell tickets. Cat + Trade Exception should land SAR if the Ray Allen deal doesn't go through. Portlands needs a 2 and cap relief. There is no way that Detroit is going to lock up R. Wallace, B. Wallace, Okur, AND Milicic long-term. Somebody needs to go and they can use more scoring. I think Cat gets you Okur. Could Cat get us Al Harrington? Indiana needs a successor to Reggie Miller, but they seem to have a pretty high asking price for Al. Of course, JVG will probable just sign Larry Johnson to a two-year deal this summer and call it even.
That is true, but the way i see it Bosh can't be their center with his frame and it seems he will be come quite a player if he continues to progress. From a GMs standpoing i would explore getting a center so bosh could develop at the 4 which would make things easier for him. THeir slaries dont match anyways so the raps would need to throw in anohter player. On the other hand Cat for Marshalll would work straight up. Considering Toronto is the worst scoring team in the league. Cat would work offensively for them and would fit with Kevin Oniel who is a defense oriented coach(if he doesnt get axed).
Dont you guys kinda wish that we still had Kenny Thomas??? Imagine where we would be now. I think by far Samuel Dalembert would also be an awesome fit for this team. Hes listed as a center, but he weighs like 250 pounds and is pretty athletic, so Im sure that he can play 4. Anybody know if his rookie contract is expiring soon? Im sure that they are going to start rebuilding now that the 76ers are falling downhill since their years in the Finals.
Cat for Marshall is a possibility. I'm not sure how much I want Donyell, but it does make a lot of sense for both sides. Another possibility is sending Donyell to Seattle for Rashard. I don't know how much Seattle values Donyell, but if it's insufficient, we could possibly compensate Seattle by adding Cato for one of their crappy centers. Toronto certainly needs a center like Cato badly, but Donyell might be too high a price to pay for Cato. I'm skeptical that Stevie could net us Elton Brand. But you never know with Sterling. Cat for Al Harrington is a real possibility. I think there were rumors of that during the offseason. Okur is an unrestricted free agent, and I think he will probably end up in Utah or another team with significant cap space. Unless we recruit him hard, I doubt he opts for a S&T to Houston when another team will probably pay him as much as we can. Swift would be nice, but as with Okur, a lot of teams want him, including those with cap space. I don't know if we have the trade assets to interest Memphis. The only players I see them being interested in is Cato (insufficient) and possibly Steve, which wouldn't be worth it. Wilcox isn't untouchable, but the Clippers need a true PG. I don't think we have anything they want. Maybe in a three-way.
Relativist, there's no way that we can trade Mobley now. That leaves a huge hole at the 2-guard spot. Mobley was 5th in the NBA in minutes played this year. His salary's very reasonable as well.
I would like to keep Cato and MoT. They both have improved their play this year. If they each come back doing at least one thing better, we are fine. I think we need a wide body out there that is semi-productive. Jahidi White type player would be perfect. We can put Cato back to a backup 5. Then split time w/ MoT and Jahidi at 4. That's a pretty stong front court.
Baqui, I like Cat and would like to see him stay, but I've decided we need to get a better point. I really think we need someone better than Stevie at either the 1, 2, or 3 to pass the ball and not turn it over so much, and IMO neither Cat or JJ are significant improvements. That means one of Cat, JJ, or Stevie needs to come off the bench or be traded. The problem with Cat is he's our most tradeable asset. As much as I like him, I don't think he's critical to our success. I agree the loss of Cat would be significant, but the 2 is one of the few spots where we have depth. In addition to Jimmy and Stevie who are (arguably) legit 2s, we still have Pike and Adrian Griffin.
Please, you people are all trying to save your favorite loser. You must destroy before you can create. Kill your idols. ------------------ Donyell Marshall + Vince Carter + Milt for Francis and Cato. Fine. Now we have a two guard. Cuttino's expendable. Ship him for something else. Or if he's you special friend, keep him for injury insurance. I'd ship him. Houston trades: C Kelvin Cato (6.1 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.0 apg in 25.3 minutes) PG Steve Francis (16.6 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 6.2 apg in 40.4 minutes) Houston receives: SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes) PF Donyell Marshall (14.7 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 36.5 minutes) PG Milt Palacio (4.4 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 3.1 apg in 20.5 minutes) Change in team outlook: +18.9 ppg, +4.0 rpg, and +2.2 apg. Toronto trades: SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes) PF Donyell Marshall (14.7 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 36.5 minutes) PG Milt Palacio (4.4 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 3.1 apg in 20.5 minutes) Toronto receives: C Kelvin Cato (6.1 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.0 apg in 69 games) PG Steve Francis (16.6 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 6.2 apg in 79 games) Change in team outlook: -18.9 ppg, -4.0 rpg, and -2.2 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED
I don't see the Raptors going for that. Donyell > Cato and Vince > Steve. I'd probably do it though simply because Donyell fills positions of need and Cato really ought to be a full-time center.
Back up PG is way more important than backup PF. I love MJax's game but he's living on borrowed time.
how about troy murphy? the rockets were scouting him big time and could had been a rocket (dang u eddie griffin). i think he has great rebounding skills that really doesnt get enough kudos and he can hit the outside jumper. i dunno about his def and shot blocking skills. he's more like mo taylor but with cato's rebounding skills and will to get the rebound
If you said this at the same time last year, No one would have even paid attention to your plea's to get TMurph, but now since he is injured many people feel like he is going to be traded by the warriors, they may suck, but they do know talent, and they would be mighty stupid to trade away Troy... IMO he is their franchise... The hell with Jrich.
yeah i think both adonal foyle and dampier are FAs this year, (not sure if they are restricted or not) but getting one of them will help a lot considering cato can go exclusively to being a backup C or a backup PF instead of having to switch from both. both dampier and foyle are better than cato offensively and are rebounding machines
