Rumor: Xbox 720 will not be able to play used games.

That is a problem with ps3 infrastructure, 360 is faster but pc destroys both. I hate turning on my ps3 after a couple months bc I know the updates are going to take forever. Your internet connection is very important, not everyone has a download speed over 20mbps. Also connecting your ps3 with an ethernet cable helps, wifi is garbage.

 

Agreed on that, I will stick with pc. Although there is not point is discussing rumors bc so many have came out since last year. Websites are just ranking in the hits on their sites. The next xbox and playstation are not even coming out this year. Ps4 prob won't even make it out next year, they lost all the money they made on ps2 this gen. They need to keep turing a profit especially since Sony is struggling financially.

 

what is the difference between "very little" and "partially"?

Seem quite similar.

 

Yeah PS3 has a 1gb port, wifi is much slower.

 

Someone will develop a key generator per developer like they do on pc. I rent or play used or borrowed games to see if they would be worth a purchase. Also It decreases my ability to sell back my old games for a new title.

 

The funny thing is that it really wasn't a jump in technology so much as a jump in TV's ability to display more on screen.

PC Games for years have been able to convey graphics that are far superior to TVs....I remember shipping a game in 2001 in 1600x1200 32bt colors, TVs still can't handle that.....

The XBox 360 was basically 720p or 1080i and once TVs could display it, it seemed like a massive leap.

The mitigating factor has always been the display.

DD

 

Makes sense but what about the whole "were still trying to use the whole ps3 cell to its maximum"
The leaps you see from regular games to games like Uncharted is just incredible. Even if you have an older TV you will still be blown away.

 

Sony's architecture and support are always difficult, on average it takes 3 to 5 years to figure out how to best utilize their CPU/GPU combo, they are just not as supportive as MS, it is easier doing XBox because it is essntially a big PC.....Sony is more proprietary and it requires a better SDK, and years of horsing around and finding the gains and where you can lose things that don't matter on screen.

It is just easier to develop on XBox.....that is the reason.

DD

 

Except most games on consoles are not even 720p.

 

Got it. However does that mean PS3 graphics will continue to grow over Xbox?
But what about gaming in general. How much further can they push it?
Games as it is now are ridiculous! Even if they wanted how much can they even increase?
I remember a lot of players stated that one of the best element about gaming graphics is that they look like a 'game' instead of realistic's.
The next ten years will be confusing and challenging not just for gaming but all entertainment companies (phones, cameras, tv's)

 

The ps3 has peaked, just a notch over 360 in terms of graphcis. The difference between Uncharted 2 and 3 are minimal and the same with Killzone 2/3.

You can always keep pushing graphics/technology from draw distance, aliasing, textures, lighting, AI, physics, et. There is a lot room to grow for games.

 

They can go a lot further honestly, right now 1080p is about what? Roughly 1280 x 1024? something like that, or is the 2nd number 960? I forget honestly.

Graphics can get a lot more realistic, more shadows, better lighting, better facial animation, we can go a lot lot further and will.

It is a weird dichotemy right now, some games with low end graphics are some of the best sellers, Plants vs Zombies for instance, and others like Uncharted 3 are on the other end and really pushing the envelope.

At the end of the day, I think sometimes gameplay gets overlooked, and to me, that is the biggest component of all, not whether it looks pretty, but whether it is actually fun to play.

DD

 

I have a few questions that maybe you guys could answer for me.

I'm not big into video games at all, so I don't know too much about their development or anything, but why are there only three big names in video games? (Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo) ?

Would it be hard for another manufacturer to get into the mix? If so, would it be due to development studios not wanting to commit to a new platform or something?

A dream console for me is something that can play video games in HD (obviously, like we have now), with a ton of storage, good amount of RAM (ps3 has 256 and it's slow at times) , and less proprietary features.

Why couldn't anyone build a console like a PS3, with perhaps access to applications such as the Android Market (I don't want the console to be Android based , but have the ability use it's apps, similar to the Blackberry Playbook) and give the consumer more choices, and obviously more features. Especially since a lot of people also use consoles as a media center type of device.

 

I think you should just an HTPC.

 

Yeah, thats the point I'm trying to make though. There isn't anything to be added right now, so I don't really see a point of releasing a console this early. Wait for 4K TV's to come into play and then make a console for that. They can release it now for future TVs, but it just seems pointless.

 

Extremely hard to enter the gaming market, you need capital. You need the money to develop the console, develop games or pay third party devs, license fees for apps, etc. Also the console will be selling at a lost for the first couple years, money is made on the software. You are going to need 1st party studios even though multiplats have been owning this gen. You have to develop an online ifrastructure, Sony is still struggling with this.

MS lost over 4 billions on the xbox and has yet to make back that money. Not too many companies have that kind of money to risk on a saturated market. You say only three big names like if three is not much. By having numerous consoles it limits money devs can make on their games so it also diminishes the product to cut cost. This is why there are so many multiplats now.

 

Textures, game world size, AI, aliasing, draw distance, shadows, lighting, physics, etc. Resolution is hardly the only factor for games.

 

Exactly, more cycles equals better everything.

Think of the difference in watching a VHS tape and Blue Ray, we have at least that much improvement in the current TVs etc.

Think of the environments, make them more interactive....so much more to do.

DD

 

Also hd tvs are not even being utilize on current consoles. Most games are not even hd, they can't even reach 720p with a stable fps. There is def not any big production games that even come close to 1080.

 

1080p is 1920 x 1080
720p is 1280 x 720

QFHD or 4K is 3840 x 2160