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Rumor: Xbox 720 will not be able to play used games.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Raven, Jan 27, 2012.

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  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    For comparison you guys should review what happened to Blockbuster as Netflix took over...that is exactly what is happening in our space.

    DD
     
  2. justtxyank

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    And guess what? There will be no anti-trust lawsuit that is winnable.
     
  3. Yonkers

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    You're arguing two different things. No one is saying that Gamestop has a right to simply profit. If they run their business right they will profit. If they don't, they will lose money. If the market factors change around them and they don't accommodate, they will lose money.
    However, there is a law that states they have the right to purchase and resell. I linked it to you already. If you didn't read it then let me quote the important parts.

     
  4. DaDakota

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    It is not as much the game as the overall matchmaking and social experience that you are paying for.

    It is a voluntary thing you can choose not to do it.

    The used market though has been killing developers and publishers, we get nothing out of all those reselling of games, or Gamefly renting them to hundreds of potential customers, forcing us to raise our intitial product cost to cover rising dev/distribution costs.

    I hope that as this gets worked out, some of the savings gets passed on to the consumers because we will all make out with more sales....a Walmart approach rather than a Neiman Marcus one.

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  5. DonnyMost

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    They haven't been "killing" them, they've been profiting off of a natural by-product. One that developers and publishers hadn't been able to capitalize on for themselves until now. Which is by no means the fault of the resellers.


    How does Gamefly's service increase their product cost? It's not the secondary market's fault they're having to raise prices to cover the cost of prod/dist. It's their own fault for not figuring out a way to make more money. Thankfully, it looks like they've finally figured it out, though.
     
  6. Bandwagoner

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    cost of product to consumer, not to him
     
  7. justtxyank

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    Correct, and Microsoft isn't stopping you from reselling. They aren't bringing copyright lawsuits against people for reselling their game.
     
  8. Yonkers

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    I agree. Are we arguing the same thing? lol
    I think the only thing I was picking on was you saying there was no law... and maybe I even interpreted that wrong.
     
  9. DonnyMost

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    That's what I was speaking to. Sorry if the wording was fuzzy.

    To me, it just sounds like developers crying that they got outfoxed.

    No one is going to feel sorry for them that someone developed a successful business model that capitalizes on something they themselves never took advantage of.

    If secondary market sources are cutting into your profits, that's business. Deal with it. They're not forcing you to raise your prices.

    The increased cost of production/distribution and lack of business ingenuity is what forces you to raise your prices.
     
  10. Yonkers

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    Now we're on the same page, Donny. I agree with you.
     
  11. Xsatyr

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    Not going to happen, too many rumors about Ps4 and 720 have been coming since last year.
     
  12. justtxyank

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    I don't feel sorry for the developers, but Gamestop also doesn't have anti-trust lawsuit if the developers figure out a way to prevent their business model from working going forward.
     
  13. DonnyMost

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    I don't feel sorry for Gamestop, either. The developers are allowed to look out for their best interest. They owe nothing to Gamestop or any other secondary retailer. The media and technology is changing, adapt or die.
     
  14. ItsMyFault

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    I hope they're putting out something else besides a Kinect 2, being a faster system, and having better graphics for people to buy this system. If this costs $400+ and that's all they can offer in comparison to the current-gen, that's really just a waste of money.
     
  15. RoxSqaud

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    Circle jerk
     
  16. Xsatyr

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    DD still has a long ways to go, not everyone has a fast enough connection to download games at a acceptable time. You will see online pass codes first to protect devs.
     
  17. Xsatyr

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    MS is not stupid, they understand pricing. You are not going to see any console priced that high next gen after want happened to Sony this gen.
     
  18. Bandwagoner

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    how long it takes to download games on PS3 has very little to do with connection speed. My speed is very fast but downloading a demo from PSN takes forever.
     
  19. ItsMyFault

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    Regardless of the price, if they can't offer a jump like xbox 360 had from xbox, I don't see the point of purchasing a new console.
     
  20. Yonkers

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    Fixed
     

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