Logistically, wouldn't it be a bit much to sign vspan and banks? that would give us 4 point guards (assuming JL3 does sign with us) not including Head or Sura. Unless the Rockets really think Vspan is ready and can play a little 2, I don't see us signing spanoulis and banks. While spanoulis might be the sexier prospect, I think I'm leaning toward banks, if only because he complements alston better. Alston would be our playmaker, and Banks would be our defensive stopper. Too bad neither can shoot though.
I agree, but Jasikevicius was more mature and far more accomplished, and even he can't deliver on his 4 mil year price tag it took to bring him to the US. That is why I think anything more than 2 mil, let alone 3 mil, in a multi-year deal, is outragous for VSpan. I would not be surprised if Indy would trade Jasikevicius to us for free (use the TE) just to clear their books. They don't have great guards, and he is a 3rd stringer for them either at the 1 or 2 (assuming they bring back F. Jones). I think this would be smarter than bringing in VSpan with anything near half an MLE contract.
Well I don't see how that has relevance, since the "cost" of a lotto pick is much moreso in the draft position than in the salary. And basically any first rounder that pans out even a bit is on a relatively underpaid contract. Whether V-span has as much chance to pan out as a lottery pick is pretty much immaterial. You look at our MLE and what's left on the market and it's clear that there isn't anyone worth a full MLE. So we can pretty much still target the players we're looking at (like banks) even if we spring for V-Span. And we might as well bring him over this year, because you never know when the opportunity cost to split the MLE for him will be as small as this year. Next year when free agency is supposed to be much stronger, you'd want to keep your full MLE in tact, and who knows after that. So in a now or much later scenario, I'd rather have V-Span now.
Maybe he wants to win the Euroleague? They only went to Final Four last year. He may also want to be on the first-team of Euroleague. By the way, had he ever played against USA team? We knew Manu and Yao were good because they played well against Team USA.
I think the salary comparison with rooks is relevant. The NBA lowered the years on rook contracts/increased the team option because too many rook contracts were not panning out at all and saddling teams with long term contracts a lot more than the player's value. Yes some teams hit big time, rooks who are heavy producers the length of those contract, but most of mid to late 1st rounders never do squat and are drains (think Reece Gaines, but this is the norm more than the exception). I just think say anything more than say a 2 year 5 mil contract is a bad bet for a guy who has a low chance to be an NBA player. I am pretty sure better bets will come along, guys like Banks and Fred Jones IMO would be much better bets at 2 year full MLE contracts (say 2/11 mil). I'd rather wait out all of FA for players to be released or resigned (or find a market lower than expected--possibly with Banks or Jones or Ariza, etc) than committ early to VSpan.
I've watched banks play on a few occasions and I agree. He can't shoot the 3 ball, shooting is very erratic, turnover prone, undersized, and doesn't seem have a very good basketball IQ. poor man's steve franchise imo
You'd take Jasikevicius for $4MM/year and wouldn't want Spanoulis for $2MM/year? That's the rumor. (3 years - $6MM) I understand wanting to keep the MLE, but not much is left for the MLE. I'd much rather take Spanoulis and his potential than Marcus Banks who I know isn't worth much.
From the 3 playoff games I saw on NBATV last year of Spanoulis, he looks considerably better than Marcus Banks except in one category defense against point guards, in which Banks is quite good (particularly ball pressure). I would say Morey/Dawson/Lindsey would all want Spanoulis more. JVG would want Banks more. That in itself should tell anyone that has been watching the Rockets who the better talent is. A lot of people are comparing him to Manu, but in those 3 games he looked a lot closer to Nash (without as good a shot).
Yeah and I guess this means the Rockets think Spanoulis is already better than Bogans, because he got apparently 3 years $6 million and Houston would not match it, but then they offer it to Spanoulis instead.
Bogans has very little upside. What you see is what you get from him. Not to mention we got Snyder for less money and he has plenty of room to improve and has much more athleticism. Letting Bogans go was a good move in the grand scheme of things.
According to reports the Rockets have offered VSpan a 3 year deal for 6 million. That is about what Ginobli got when he signed with the Spurs as a rookie so I believe the numbers are probably about right. I have no real clue what Banks is asking but I have a hard time believing that he will get 4 million next season. He looks to have some potential but if he wants 4 a year then I say to him...good luck finding someone to give you that but I hope its not the Rockets.
The Rockets have to offer him that size of a contract because he could get more money in europe than the NBA minimum salary
Steve Nash 32 years old Vassilli Spanoulis 24 years old Hopefully we keep him with Yao and Tmac for another 5 years
New Article on Vassili Spanoulis! now they are talking about 4.5 million.. here is the link GREEK SPORTS WEBSITE
If Vassilis is willing to come here that's very intriguing. However, if we are the one's pushing too hard as they are just "ears" and money-driven then I'd use Vassilis as trade bait. Honestly, if he doesn't come here this off-season, probably latest next off-season, we know he's going to virtually amount to absolutely nothing. He's either too scared to come here or to successful in Europe, so why does he need the change? If either are the case, forget Vassilis. We can't let a "scared" player on the team, Van Gundy would suck the confidence right out of him. If he's too successful and why change? It simply means he's selfish and not competition-driven.
If he makes 500,000 euros for the next 2 years and resigns for 700,000 euros, that would mean over the course of the next 3 years in Europe, he would make approximately $2.1 million. He should jump if they are offering him $4.5 million for the next 3 years, with the opportunity to prove himself and make more after that, rather than be tied up for 700,000 euros a year. How does that compare to other #50 picks?
According to a member from the Panathinaikos Website, Vassili Spanoulis announced tonight to a greek journalist that his chances to play for the Houston Rockets are 70% to 80%!! LOOKS LIKE A DONE DEAL!!! Yeaaa!
