If they trade Ron, they need to bring back another broad-all-star level 2/3. It will be a financial decision for the other team. I think The realistic target will be following, 1, prince or hamilton from piston, 2 mike miller, 3, Josh howard, 4, matrix 5, richard jefferson Only prince/hamilton are better than Ron, others either in downside (howard/matrix/miller) or bad defense (miller/jefferson).
Puff, Puff, Pass. Oh my bad, didnt see you were a Aggie, that explains alot. For a minute there, I thought you were on a Meth binge. You Aggies, sometimes, I think you guys should hang a Handicap sticker next to your member name, just so we know how special you guys are. PS. Watch out for sliding glass doors, although they look clear and are visible through, you shouldnt walk into them....esp repeatedly.
I don't see how acquiring Josh Howard for Ron Artest is realistic. A big trade within the same division of two teams that are like 2 games apart. I don't see neither team agreeing to that trade.
My question is which 2010 superstar (or available blu chip free agent) will fit best with Yao? You would think that any superstar with all world talents like Dwade and LBJ would mesh well with anyone, but a low post centric player like Yao is a big adjustment for talented wing players that are used to having the offense revolve around them. Are we better off getting 2nd tier stars to build around Yao as he goes into his 30's or try to get an all world player to pair up with him again? (presumably to replace Tmac)
Wade would fit with Yao. He has played with Shaq before, he could make it work with Yao. Honestly though I don't see Wade leaving Miami. I still think Lebron will stay in Cleveland. Bosh is the only one out of the top 3 that I see leaving his team.
You can't trade him to the same team... so Ron can't go back to the Kings. Landry can't go back to Charlotte. That's about it.
aelliott - Every word you typed is true. But it IMO is an incomplete picture. In essence, you're hinting that unless the Rockets are willing to Max Artest, he's gone. The logic being he's Un-Restricted. That's true....but do you really think Artest will take an MLE offer from a Lottery-bound team? The unknown for all of us...Morey included...is the end effect Artest has on the Rockets' current season. With an admitted prejudice, nothing the Rockets get this season has a greater playoff implication than Artest does. If the Rockets go deep into the playoffs as a result of Artest, the Rockets will figure out a way to shave a few million to duck the LTax...and besides...it's not like teams are lined up tp Max Artest anyway. Unless someone puts an unbelievable offer out there, the Rockets and Artest are joined at the hip for his future income. The Rockets will not trade him to a WC competitor this season and Artest will walk away for a Lottery-bound team next summer. The Rockets can SnT Artest next summer to wherever he wants if the deal is right for them. IMHO, they need to hold on to him, let the season run out, and field offers next summer if they have to do so.
It does not make the sense with the win now attitude the organization has taken for this season. Ron has the passion that the team needs and feeds off. When Ron has played the D and passion have been great. I sure more will come out on this season of so much damn DRAMA on the team.
Aww yes, I do remember that post after-all. Thanks though. You can trade players that have been traded in the same year, duh. As far as 2010 FA's I could see with Yao....even though I love the Scola/Landry PF tandem, I have to go with Chris Bosh. He would be F'n awesome with Yao. Twin Towers ver. 2.0. Wow, if Clutch thinks Miami, then that means we would get??? Any ideas besides Marion?
The guys you mentioned are all normal sized big men. Almost all of the giants from 7'4 and up have had shortened careers due to lower body injuries, and Yao already has a history of foot problems. If he's still playing at a high level, he'll be beating the overwhelming odds.
QFT There won't be too great a market for Artest this summer. Couple that with his likely paltry trade value in comparison to his on-court impact on the game, and they would be best served to play this year out with him.
"big guys like Yao" ? Who would that be? Has there ever been another player like Yao? Bradley and Bol were tall, but they couldn't play that's why they didn't last. Were Yao's foot problems any worse than those of Ilgalskus? He'll turn 34 this year and his numbers haven't had a severe drop off. How about other large 300lb+ centers? Mark Eaton played until he was 36. Artis Gilmore played until he was 38. James Donaldson played until he was 37. Who are the tall heavy centers that haven't aged well? Were you refering to Shaq? He was a freak of nature. He was the only 300lb player who also had quickness. As he's gotten older he's lost that quickness and it's hurt his game, but he still has his size and strength and is still quite effective (admittedly not near what he use to be). For the rest of the 300 lb centers they never had that quickness to begin with so age has less effect on them. If you look at the history of the few guys who were over 7'2" and weighed more than 300 lbs, they tended to play into their late 30's and their numbers didn't just fall off a cliff when they turned 30.
I agree. Wade and James could fit with anyone, but considering that out of three long shots Bosh is possibly the only hittable target, I would be intrigued by a frontcourt with him and Yao. I think they would complement each other well on offense AND defense. Bosh is also a "Morey" type defender, in the mold of Hayes and Landry, who is quick enough that he can switch onto a guard after a pick and not be a liability. Unlike those other two though, he's taller and can block more shots, which is useful.
Gater, that is not what I was trying to imply. In fact I wasn't really trying to comment on the probability of resigning Artest at all. I was really trying to point out the difference between being able to exceed the cap to sign and player and being able to match any offer. As you are well aware those are two very different things. That was the whole point of my post, nothing more.
Don't forget that some people think Shaq would be more effective today if he didn't carry all that extra weight for a few seasons. I have a feeling Yao takes better care of his body than Shaq ever did.
Curious... Monday I purposed a trade Mike Miller / Ron Artest. I think Ron needs the team playing for him to be efficient, but that can break the chemistry on the court. Predictable. By other side, Miller is now playing off the bench, Minnesota did hope more from him. Miller would fit in Rockets scheme because he's a shooter an a very good passer. Also he's a great friend of Tracy, right? Mike Miller is one of my favourite players at SF position. Minnesota would have the expiring with Ron. Makes sense? Sorry 4 my english.
