I hope Kyle Lowry falls in our laps at 32. That would be a perfect draft, getting Roy and the hard nosed Lowry would be a dream come true for me. He may even turn out to be a 4th quarter defender/closer for us if he plays smart and under control. Also, like you mentioned if we get Mardy Collins at 32 that would be great as well. I hope Draftexpress is right in that regard. He didn't test out that well athletically but with his size and PG skills he should be a solid PG/SG/SF backup for stretches. Let's hope one of these guys is still there when we pick at 32.
Just say NO to Roy... Knee problems, more than one surgury. Shut down our recent workout b/c a tweaked hamstring. This guy already has a small injury bug. We give up luther who proved to be a very nice surprise out of last years wreckage. Roy is a glorified role player, will never be a star (we dont need another star anyway). Yes we need role players, but trading depth and #8 pick to do it? No thanks. I wont be impressed with our post draft roster if we give up Head and 8 pick unless its for a complete stud that slips to 4. Our depth will still be our weakness, even more than before. Just say NO to Roy...
Roy can play the third scorer, and this is the difference, either Head and Carney may not score that much in their rookie year, Roy is ready right now for putting 10+ points per game... to be our third scorer. It's true that Head and Carney are better then just Roy, but like you won't trade superstar for 7 rollplayers... We can sign someone to replace Head, maybe from the 32th pick we can find someone in his level.
Funny how everyone is worried about a tweaked back on Redick but not Roy's surgically repaired knees, or Aldridge's surgically repaired hip, etc..etc...etc... DD
for the depth problem, i wont be surprised if we buy picks in the secound round, seattle's picks might be for sale (#40 & 53) if i understood correctly an article posted here some days ago ...
Those are my feelings. Roy is a good player but I feel that we need more depth. As of right now I'd rather not give up Head. I think Head could be our Devin Harris type player on a deep and healthy Rockets team. Head is better than Harris if you ask me.
For me, the main question is whether Roy is better than Brewer+Head. I'm not so sure. Brewer could end up being just as good as Roy, though his downside is probably more as well. If we could trade the #8 and Juwan for the number 5 pick, then it's a no brainer. But obviously Atlanta wouldn't like that as much.
I would think that Brewer and Head combined are better than Roy, but that's where it gets tough to delineate the values. I mean, what's better? Having one player that gives you more by himself than two other guys could seperately, or the two guys that when combined can give you more than the single better player? It's all very subjective at this point. I'm on the fence myself.
I have also thought of scenarios with us picking up Seattle's 10th overall pick then drafting Redick. A SG rotation of Roy and Redick is solid, although extremely young and unproven. Since Seattle has so many needs right now its hard to imagine them passing on the opportunity to improve their team and get better, however I understand it still remains a possiblity that they deal their pick. Do you think offering a lotto-protected 2007 pick would be enough to get it done? As for who I want in the second round, Hassan Adams. I really think Adams could end up being one of the biggest steals in the draft. He's extremely strong and athletic and despite being only 6'4", his quickness, length, athletic ability and overall strength make up for his lack of height as he plays A LOT bigger than he really is. He could legitimately defend most 2/3's on the NBA level with his wide skill set and the amount of energy and desire he plays with. The best part is not only does he have that "lock down defender" potential he's also a gifted scorer that put the ball in the hole from anywhere out on the court except from 3-pt range. He's practically a clone of Desmond Mason. He's had some off-court issues (most notably: DUI arrest in March that kept him out of the PAC 10 Tourney) and had an unfortunate turn of events when he recently broke his foot. Combine that with being only 6'4" and not having consistent 3-pt range, he's starting to slip under the radar big time. This is the kind of player that if he was two inches taller and had NBA caliber 3-pt range he would be a lottery pick.
DD, i'd take reddick, by moving back a few picks and possibly picking up an extra pick or a player... but this somehow needs to include the extraction of jhoward from our roster and payroll....
I think Daryl Morey has it all figured out. He probably knows Roy > Brewer+Head with all the calculations.
That may just happen, if Charlotte picks Roy then it will probably throw this draft in a tail spin and the rockets have to go with alterior plans or just keep their pick. Seems like CD said it would be pretty easy to move back in this draft.
I really loved watching Roy in the NCAA tourney. He was brilliant at times. As for the injuries, that's a tough thing to predict. I mean, most NBA athletes undergo some type of injury, surgery, or multiple and nagging ones at that. Nothing and no one is a sure bet. I hope the Rockets have a well-qualified risk assessment person on staff.....like Ben Stiller in Along Came Polly. The difference with Redick and all the worry about the back problems is that Redick does one thing very well - perimeter shooting. He doesn't do much else. A back injury may render him completely ineffective. A guy like Roy has a very well-rounded game. So an injury may hinder an aspect of his game, but may not render him ineffective. Alas, there's no exact science. We should just have fun with the speculation. Carry on.....
If the Rockets can manage to get Roy from Atlanta for Head+8th, and also draft Gansey with their 32nd pick -- that would be amazing. Probably the best possible scenario.
PG - Rafer / MJames SG - Roy / Sura SF - Tmac / Bogans PF - Stro / JHoward C - Yao / Deke * Tmac / Bogans can also spend time at SG so im not too worried. I think picking up Roy would definately be a great move. We would have our legit third option and talk about how much speed we have on the perimeter with Rafer / James / Roy / Tmac. If Stro doesnt wrestle the starting PF spot away from Jhow he deserves to rot on the bench. J
I agree. It's just not a very good trade. If it involved Howard instead of Luther it would be more appealing to me. But to lose, virtually, the only tradable asset and quality depth on this team for a solid but unspectacular player in Brandon Roy? Not the path, I would like to see them chose. I'd still prefer the Portland deal.
