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Rumor: Rockets-Hawks Finalizing Draft Day Deal?!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Outlier, Jun 26, 2006.

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  1. xcrunner51

    xcrunner51 Member

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    If this were the case I'd want to draft Aldridge to put next to Yao. Why does it seem like every mock draft always forgets to include one of the top players?
     
  2. gunn

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    I don't understand what you are trying to say. Why is that short sighted?
     
  3. yobod

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    i just dont see brandon roy falling to #5

    1) bergani
    2)aldridge
    3)roy
    4)morrison

    whos left? thomas, gay....

    im not sure how much giving up luther will help us
    gay's game has some huge holes like not being able to handle the ball, and his lack of intensity on that utah team while thomas is not someone we need at the moment.

    i guess it just all depends
     
  4. yobod

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    or well uconn i mean... i dont know why utah came out

    but in any case thomas and aldridge could be available, i saw aldridge play in person a few games in austin, and his game is just not that good. he doesnt play with fire, one of the games i attended against baylor he had like 5 points and got dominated by the opposing teams walk ons.

    speaking of ut games, with our 2nd round pick im telling you guys now that i think daneil gibson is an amazing scorer. there were games were it was close to the end being tied and gibson just took over scoring at will. i remember he dropped 35 in the 2nd half against baylor and single handedly won that close game.
     
  5. eman

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    Daniel Gibson graduated sixth in his high school class.
     
  6. yobod

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    lol thanks eman!
     
  7. TMac#1

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    The Bobcats play by play guy was on 610, he said that the 3 guys are Morrison, Roy and Gay. He said that Morrison and Gay were the top 2 and Roy was a darkhorse. He said that he would give Morrison the nod right now. If that is the case we have to hope Portland would not take Roy, even though we could still get Gay.
     
  8. ArtV

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    I'd keep things they way they are (keep Luther and #8) if Roy isn't there at 5.
     
  9. yobod

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    if we could somehow package swift with our pick, i really think thomas could really help this team. his game is everything swift has plus a game mid range touch and he plays much smarter. hes a very vocal player on the court which i like unlike swift who just stares at his feet.

    front court- tmac, yao, thomas
    back court- rafer....and?

    maybe bobby jones in the 2nd round?

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    Bobby Jones
    Birthdate: 1/9/84
    NBA Position: SG/SF
    College: Washington
    Class: Senior
    Ht: 6-6
    Wt: 210
    Hometown: Long Beach, CA
    High School: Poly
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    NBA Comparison: Bruce Bowen

    Strengths: Big, athletic guard that can really defend on and off the ball...One of the best defensive shooting guards in college basketball...Tough as nails...Excellent rebounder for his size...Led UofW in rebounding last season...Gifted athlete who runs and jumps with the best of them... Tremendous lateral quickness...Great basketball IQ "Plays within himself" and a motor that doesn't stop... Great in transition and finishes well at the rim... Rapidly improving his jump shot and outside game...Wants the ball in crunch time and hit many big shots for the Huskies...An all out hustler who plays with the kind of intangibles that coaches love.
     
  10. ArtV

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    ^ But hasn't he said that he'd be more of a SF in the NBA?
     
  11. Outlier

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    On Fox 26:

    Rockets still trying to trade up, target appears to be Brandon Roy. Talks with Atlanta, giving up Luther Head. Rockets pursuing every avenue to get him.
     
  12. JayZ750

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    Roy seems like he good be real good, but nothing truly stands out that makes you think the Rockets should have such a hard-on for him.

    Brandon Roy vs. Ronnie Brewer....compare/contrast. Scouting reports make them seem like similiar players except Roy is a better shooter and Brewer is a better ballhandler/defender, and more athletic (and can be had later in the draft).

    Now Morrison/Barganni...maybe even Aldridge, those players potentially have more upside.
     
  13. sammy

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    Roy is a LOT better than Brewer. His stats are much better in my opinion. 50.8 FG, 80 % FT, and over 40% 3 pt...a legit third option....is brewer a legit third option?
     
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    Brewer isn't half the player Roy is. Brewer will never be more than a finisher on offense, and some size on D. Roy is a very complete all around player.
     
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    I'm already having second thoughts about Roy. He haven't even started training camp and he's already injured. This guy might be a injury prone candidate. I would draft brewer and keep Luther.
     
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    were not looking for upside, were looking for a guy who can contribute now. aldridge and bargannia are projects at best. for a guy who couldnt stand his ground in the NCAA aldridge is going to get raped in the NBA game
     
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    Unfortunately there were only 8 seniors that year.

    ;)
     
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    Okay I like this trade....but can't we get say a 2nd round pick next year (2007) too?

    I mean this is two 1st round picks for 1 1st round pick.

    On Bobby Jones ... I really like him a lot, but u don't draft him 32.

    There is a chance too he could go undrafted...in which case Dawson better sign him and Gerry Mcnamara if he goes undrafted too.

    A shooter/PG and a good physical defender... for cheap, but that is the entire universe were to fall in place.
     
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    The Rockets luck has always been better than their decision making. I predict
    the Rockets will get lucky then make some bad decisions soon after. What is of equal importance, is who we get rid of, as who we bring in. As Yao would say, "It's either yin, or it's yan, and sometimes the great, infinite balance of both". Well, I say we aim for that balance thing.
     
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    I agree. If Toronto takes Bargnani #1, that means they couldn't work a deal with Portland and Charlotte and feel like they could slide Bargnani past Chicago. I think they take Bargnani #1, because they can't take the chance that Chicago takes him. I think Paxson is not letting the cat out of the bag so he can hold Toronto to Bargnani and not let Toronto make an extra player off the #1 pick. No sense in helping them build their team.

    So, with that in mind, Toronto takes Bargnani #1. If Chicago took Roy #2, which would be a reach, and Charlotte took Morrison #3, which would be the worst case scenario for Portland, then that leaves Portland looking at Aldridge, Thomas, or Gay at #4. My bet is they take Aldridge, leaving Gay for Minny at 6. Is Minny going to take him? Maybe they do, thinking they can trade him off to us and get Head or exchange Juwan for Jaric. I think we should hold our peace and force Minny to take him, or trade the pick down. They are basically locked in with us. If they really want Foye, and they take Gay without making a deal with us, then they are setting themselves up to lose the guy they really want. Because we could always trade our pick to NO for 12 and 15 if Thomas is still sitting there. Now Minny is trying to peddle Gay off to somebody and try not to look bad doing it. It's just not a doable scenario for them. They will be forced to put up or shut up, take Foye or take Gay. And if they take Gay, Boston is then forced to put up or shut up. They can either take Thomas who doesn't fit at all with them, or they can trade down and hope that MW is still there. But they can't trade down too far. I suppose they may get a team like GS or Seattle to trade up to get their man but I can't see GS or Seattle giving up much besides a 2nd rounder. That's too much risk for them. They could do the NO deal for the 12 and 15. MW may still be there. But again, it's too risky. Seattle could just snap MW up and Boston is froze out.

    The other reason to sit tight at #8 is because the odds are good that one of the top 6 will still be there. CD can talk away their 15 minutes pretending to come up with a deal and then they've got to make their pick. That's why those guys are doing most of their talking now. Those teams know what deals are sitting there on the table when their turn to pick comes around. There's not whole lot of thought except to possibly tweak a proposal already on the table and hope that you can get the trade that you want. So, when it comes right down to it, there are only a few cards that are not turned over and there is probably one joker in the entire deck, that is to say, a deal that comes out of nowhere at the last minute.

    I think our 2 guys that we want out of the 6 are Roy and Morrison. Morrison is a pipe dream. He should be playing in Charlotte or Portland. And really the best fit for him is Portland.

    Bottom line is, if Morrison and Roy are gone, Minny will probably be choosing between Gay, Thomas, and Foye. Keep Luther and force them to make the pick. Luther plus whatever we can get at #8 to me is worth more to me than Gay. And if Thomas falls to #8, I think we can get shanghai New Orleans for even more than 12 and 15. We could probably turn Howard into P.J. Brown and get J.R. Smith to go along with it.
     

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