I thin you can have all the knowledge about players, but if the player doesn't work in the summer to improve, talent doesn't mean alot. I just want the guy who is a gym rat with a great work ethic and talent. I mean there have been players projected as this or that, but they kinda stagnate for some reason. I do know that if you find a athelete with great work ethic, his ceiling is unlimiteless.
I have to totally disagree with you on Dickerson being a better player then Mobley when they were with the Rockets. In their rookie season Cat averaged 9.94 on 42% shooting in 29 mins per game. While Dickerson averaged 10.94 on 46% shooting in 32 mins per game. Pretty even I would say. An by saying Roy = Dickerson = Francis = McGrady. Therefore Roy = McGrady, I hope you meant Dickerson ------> Francis -------> McGrady. I dont follow the Roy connection there.
Charlotte might still throw a wrench in the deal. Got this from a Bobcats mb(rgm-link won't post), but couldn't find the story at source. Don't think it's a lie, but take with appropriate grain of salt. From today's seattle times: Quote: "The Charlotte Bobcats wanted to meet Brandon Roy. They asked him to travel to Virginia and back in 40 hours for a predraft workout, and seemed pleasantly surprised when encountering him. The All-America guard arrived with no extra baggage. On his overnight trip to the South, Roy privately noted that an inordinate amount of time was spent addressing his character, his pristine image, rather than basketball stuff. The conversation, in fact, leaned so much to the personal side that the Washington Huskies player and reigning Pac-10 Player of the Year wanted to make sure his NBA hosts, who hold the third pick in the NBA draft on Wednesday, hadn't forgotten anything. "They said they were excited about me, because I was a good person and that I was a nice guy," Roy recounted. "I was laughing and I asked them, 'But what about my workout?' They said it was fine, that they already knew I was a good player."
Ya, even though Roy cancelled his workout w/ Charlotte, there has been a lot of talk about Jordan and the Bobcats being very interested in Roy.
I think the Bobcats will take Roy. Jordan loves him and has the last say. Bickerstaff prefers Morrison. Bobcats have a huge need at the 2 guard at Brandon Roy is a perfect fir. Gerald Wallace has established himself as a very good player and he plays the 3. Morrison is a 3 and so is Gay so why would they take either of them.
If Charlotte does take roy, and portland-toronto do the swap and get morrison and bargnani, then bulls take aldridge or thomas, then that leaves thomas/aldridge or Gay at number five. That's a lot of ifs, but seems rockets still make trade to get to 5.
That whole "Roy = McGrady" logic was just a joke. Sensationalism-satire. As for Dickerson & Mobley - I'll admit it was pretty close. Dickerson was bigger and better suited for the 2, and (in my opinion) more basketball savvy. A smoother player who got better shots off. But, if Roy ends up being as good as either of them were, this trade will have been more than worth it.
From a RealGM bb report (Bobcats forum)....According to a conference call with Bickerstaff and Bobcats season tickerholders, Bickerstaff said that their 2/3 spots are interchangable. And that they are looking for shooting to compliment Gerald Wallace at the other spot. Basically that means they could be looking at Roy or Morrison. It seemed as if Bickerstaff was talking up Morrison a fair amount. And from what I have heard Jordan really likes Morrison's intensity. I had Rudy Gay going to the Bobcats at #3, but I am thinking Morrison is going to go there, with Aldridge to the Blazers, Roy to the Hawks (then Houston) and Gay or Foye to the Wolves at #6. Roy could go to the Bobcats.....but I am now thinking Morrison.
Could go like this according to rumors: 1. Bargnani or Morrison traded to Portland 2. Aldridge 3. Roy or Gay 4. Morrison or Bargnani traded to Toronto 5. Shelden or Roy traded to Houston 6. Foye or Gay or Thomas 7. Foye or Marcus Williams 8. Shelden traded to Atlanta or Gay or Thomas or Redick ^ I think that's all the possible scenarios ^
Roy is a better fit with the Bobcats than anyone, but they need someone to help sell tickets and excite the locals. I don't think Roy does that. That's why I think they get Morrison somehow.
OK, but then we are "forced" to have ATL take Gay instead, which in some cases, might actually be considered an upgrade over Roy anyway...
Maybe, but I can all but guarentee you neither Gay nor Roy will fall to 8. Either the Wolves or Celts jump on him before us or they trade down with some team that does. Seems obvious to me, I don't know...
They probably wouldn't be, I just have a feeling the Rockets wouldn't give up Head for Gay or the others. Gay doesn't really have a fit on this team, he would have to play SF. I'm not sure the team plans on moving McGrady back to SG.
I do think now, having learned more about Roy, that he will be a better player than Dickerson, but he was the best comparison I could think of after watching Roy. They are similar size ... I think Dickerson was faster and a better long range shooter, but Roy would be more versatile -- a better rebounder, passer, creater. Dickerson hit 46.5% from the floor and over 43% from long range as a rookie and scored 18.2 points and picked 1.41 steals a night in his second season. He was a very good player in my opinion -- his career was just sadly cut short. I would agree that Morrison has a better upside than Wally ... I was going more with who I thought the player was similar to and though Morrison has a Larry Bird-type offensive ability, I thought comparing him to Larry Bird was more silly than comparing him to Wally. Bird was way more than a scorer/shooter. I thought the Wally comparison was closer. Szczerbiak signed the max deal and has been looked upon as a negative value ever since, but before he did that he was a very capable NBA scorer and a lights out shooter (still averaging around 20 a night). Morrison I think will be more aggressive of a "scorer" than Wally and much better at creating his shot. Bottom line though - I think you guys are right .... both of those comparisons might be a little off.
Come on now. I think you and I both know that coming up with 5 names would be fairly easy. I think few would question it if I said the GMs of top three teams in each respective conference for starters.
you know who i see alot of in Morrison a poor man's Carmelo Anthony a 3, who came into the league known as a scorer, the only difference is people considered Melo kinda heavy when he came in while Morrison light... but i think they have a very similar offensive game with Morrison being more on the perimeter
