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[Rumor] Rockets considering trade of #26 to Indiana?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Williamson, Jun 27, 2007.

  1. prv1981

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    If this rumor rings true, I will definetly miss seeing Luther knocking down those 3 pointers. Unfortunately you gotta give something to gain something. I can definetly see why the Rox would make this move, and of all the rumors I have heard this sound like the most even deal mentioned to date.
     
  2. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Regarding Luther. I like Luther Head. But let's be honest, right now he is on the OUTSIDE looking in, in our rotation.

    PG rotation is Alston/James (and who knows where Vspan stands?)
    SG rotation is Tmac/Bonzi.

    So where is Luther going to get the minutes? He is a luxury at this point. An asset to trade to bring in a front court player.
     
  3. DonkeyMagic

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    glad to see a mention of herbert hill in that discussion. he's my late round sleeper. It would be great if rockets could pick up a mid 2nd rounder and snag him.
     
  4. PeteTheCheat

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    when you have a guy on your team that shoots 44% from downtown you find a place in the rotation.

    if the right deal doesn't come along it's not like you have a player who offers nothing coming off the bench. the odd man out here is snyder, because luther is above him on the depth chart in my esitmation
     
  5. DonkeyMagic

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    as for the idea of tmac/bonzi at sg..i dont see why bonzi doesnt come into the second unit as the sf and head as the sg. i dont really like tmac playing sg, but its the way it is now.
     
  6. Jacquescas

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    make it simple, didn't we get a a TE with the Big Jake trade?

    Lets just use that and the pick for Diogu. He and Hayes will be our undersized but active 4s. Its definately a move that adds some youth to the starting 5.
     
  7. PeteTheCheat

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    bonzi out there also allows battier to slide over to the 4 for more minutes...
    bonzi definitely picks up alot of the rebounding slack that becomes a problem with battier at pf.

    if we only had stevie...that would be the best rebounding 1-3 line-up in the league.
     
  8. PeteTheCheat

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    I think this would only work if we made the trade before drafting at 26.
    you can't package a TE with an actual player
     
  9. NIKEstrad

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    Yes you can. You just can't combine the salaries (which is inconsequential in this case because a draft pick has none).

    The actual problem is the trade exception we received in the Tsakalidis trade is for Scott Padgett's salary -- under 1 mill. Diogu makes over 2 mill.
     
  10. PeteTheCheat

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    isn't a pick guaranteed a certain contract based on the number he's drafter at? therefore we could trade the rights to pick #26, but not the player we draft at #26?
     
  11. SmitingPurpleEm

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    We can draft somebody, not sign them, and then trade their rights, and then this drafted-but-unsigned player is worth $0 when computing salaries. This is what we did with Rudy Gay last year.
     
  12. NIKEstrad

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    No. You trade the rights to a player (which is the way it is done 95% of the time).

    They aren't guaranteed the contract until they sign it -- a team is not required to sign its first round pick. It happens all the time to international players who take a couple years before coming over (or sometimes not at all - ie, Frederic Weis). In fact, iirc, it happened to Travis Knight years back.
     
  13. PeteTheCheat

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    thanks Nike and Smiting...

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  14. pacertom

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    I don't like this a bit but it is true that the Pacers brass would like to unload Tinsley for his poor defense and off-the-court issues.

    Diogu is considered insurance for the day when Jermaine O'Neal demands a trade or opts out after next year, so I don't really see this happening.

    But Bird did say this morning the odds are 50-50 to get a draft pick in trade, so who knows.

    But this is a deal all Pacer fans would hate.
     
  15. Guru

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    Maybe its a two step deal. Not sure if we can trade away a pick we traded for...but maybe its Head and # 26 an filler for Cook and Ike. (We trade #19 and filler for Ike)... :confused:
     
  16. BigTex

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    i just hope were not getting our hopes up like we did last year with Roy
     
  17. pariah

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    YO DIGGITY!
     
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    No Diogu
    He hasn't been able to make it on two bad teams! Who in his wildest imagination thinks that he can make it on a soft team like the Rockets?
     
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    A bigger version of Hayes but Hayes got better basketball IQ. NO thanks.
     
  20. pacertom

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    Not playing with the Pacers has more to do with Rick Carlisle's stubborn refusal to play young players than it does Ike's ability. Remember, one of the issues with carlisle in Detroit was not playing a young Tayshaun Prince,

    The second main factor is this: recall that it was a mid-season trade that brought IKe to Indiana, so he was immediately pretty clueless in the new system.

    Most Pacers fans expect him to get 25 min/g under O'Brien, and more if O'Neal is traded and a PF doesn't come back in the trade.

    The only think to be concerned about is that under Nellie he was losing out to Beidrins. But Nellie's systems and rotations are often so odd that I don't think it translates to Houston or to Indiana.

    Ike is a very good player and I'm 99% sure there will not be a better one after the top 20 picks are past tonight, unless Big Baby pulls an Arenas and gets slim, mad, and motivated to make people pay for letting him slide.
     

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