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[Rumor] Rockets considering trade of #26 to Indiana?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Williamson, Jun 27, 2007.

  1. bratna8

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    Wilcox better than Ike....no way.....wow I didn't know that? :rolleyes:
     
  2. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN

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    I'd hope so. Chris Wilcox is making what? 10 million a year? If Ike Diogu can give you even close to what Wilcox can then the price is right. I always liked Diogu, but I'd be lying if I told you I've watched him play more than a handful of times. I just remember loving his scouting report the year he was drafted and watching video highlight clips of him back then. Since then I've seen him play in a few games and I liked his game, but it's hard to have any real idea of what he's capable of because he's always been stuck behind big money big men like Troy Murphy and Jermaine O'Neil.
     
  3. saleem

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    I don't want to give up Head but I don't them to pick Fazekas or Davis.
    I like Sean Williams but Diogu probably won't cause problems like Williams might. If we can't get Sean or Ike I would rather go for Koponen is a future PG to replace VSpan who can't make up his mind about coming back. Almond would be my choice after Koponen.
     
  4. blazer_ben

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    Anytime this kid has got worthwhile minutes, he has deliverd. for the 26 pick, it's a bargin.
     
  5. TTRocket

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    Well we have Head the #26 pick, and Battier so I imagine if we wanted to we could get a player like Wilcox. I don't see why we would have to put our hopes on Ike.

    The point I'm trying to make is not that its necessarily a bad deal, but that if our rotation ends up being Ike/Hayes that won't be good enough.
     
  6. SpiffyRifi

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    a straight up swap wouldn't work salary cap would it? Wouldn't we need to throw something else in? If we can trade the pick and sura for Ike I think that's a no brainer...but I'd guess we'd have to send someone else as well.
     
  7. Williamson

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    Well, all due respect, your point is pointless until we find out what other moves the Rockets plan to make to fill out the roster. This could just be the first move to address power forward. I really don't see how anybody can object to this deal and, to be honest, it annoys me when people knock a good deal like this one or the Howard for James deal on the basis that that single move isn't going to make us a contender. It isn't about saving the franchise with a single move. Morey may have more trading to do. He certainly has the MLE to spend. The moves aren't done. If this move is a good move, be pleased with that. Be glad we've just added another trade able asset and become a little deeper.

    Do you really think the #26 pick in the draft would do better for us than Ike Diogu? I'm curious. If so, who do you want them to take at 26?
     
  8. Gutter

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    he'd be a good fit for adelmens offense....has a inside presence and can clean up around the offensive glass....make it happen :cool:
     
  9. Clutch

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    Nothing major in this article, but earlier in the day this article talked about how the Pacers are looking to possibly get in to the draft (they don't have a draft pick -- Atlanta has it at #11).

    http://nwitimes.com/articles/2007/06/27/ap-state-in/d8q1as580.txt

    Pacers unsure if they will obtain draft pick
    Wednesday, June 27, 2007 1:50 PM CDT

    By CLIFF BRUNT

    INDIANAPOLIS - Indiana Pacers president Larry Bird says he plans to improve the team and make the playoffs next year. He just isn't sure how yet.

    The Pacers don't have a draft pick Thursday. But Bird said there's a 50-50 chance the team would work its way into the draft.

    In the meantime, the Pacers continue to assess prospects.

    "There's a lot of talk that, if you don't have a pick, do you still prepare yourself for the draft?" Bird said during a pre-draft news conference Tuesday. "We would do that whether we had five picks or no picks, because you've got to know. At the last minute, if the phone rings, somebody might want to sell their pick, or trade a future pick for one now. So we prepare just like we had a lottery pick."

    The Pacers missed out on a top three pick in the draft lottery and had to send their No. 11 pick to Atlanta as part of the trade that brought Al Harrington to the Pacers last summer. Harrington was later traded away in a multiplayer deal. The Pacers lost this year's second-round pick when they traded to get James White in last year's draft.

    Now, the Pacers are scrambling to fill their primary need _ perimeter shooting. Bird wouldn't say if that could be done with a draft pick or through a trade.

    "We will get a good shooter," he said. "We'll get one of the top shooters in the league. May not be one of the biggest names in the league, but we will get a guy that can shoot the basketball."

    Bird also wouldn't say how many picks the Pacers were trying to get, or who might be traded to get them.

    "It's according to what we do," he said. "I'm not going to sit here and say we have multiple picks, but if we can do something to get into the draft and we like it, we will."

    Jermaine O'Neal has been consistently linked to trade rumors since the Pacers' season ended. The team's top player averaged 19.4 points, 9.6 rebounds and 2.6 blocks in one of the best seasons of his 11-year career. He's a six-time All-Star who finished third in fan voting this year for the Pacers' 40th anniversary team.

    Earlier this summer, O'Neal denied reports that he had demanded a trade to the New York Knicks. He has clearly stated that he doesn't want to be part of a rebuilding project, but Bird has said he wants to win now and add pieces.

    Part of Bird's hesitance in jumping into the draft is that he doesn't know if what's out there is better than the young talent he already has. Danny Granger, David Harrison, Ike Diogu and Shawne Williams all are under 25.

    "We've had a lot of discussions about it, a lot of calls," Bird said. "We like our corps of young players, and so does everybody else in the league. They're trying to get them and trade them for draft picks. We don't know if we want to go that route."
     
  10. hooroo

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    Luther Head 4th best 3P shooter in the league.

    JVG mentioned the Battier trade was Morey's. He also mentioned Les thought they didn't get enough back for the no.8 pick as a lot of posters here agreed with.

    I hope Morey gets value this time around. Head+no.26 for Diogu isn't.
     
  11. TMACFORMVP

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    God I love this deal. The guy is still young and has huge potential. I've seen every game of his as a Warrior and he can flat out ball. He's great with his back to the basket but has a nice touch out to around 18 feet. Is not much of a banger but similar to the type of Boozer, more mid-range to close to the basket area. Don't be fooled by his height since his wingspan is enormous similar to a Elton Brand and hi standing reach is over 9"!

    In his rookie season he got the chance, he was impressive.

    In 20 games where he received over 20 minutes per game, he averages over 14 points per game including one game against the Pistons where he had 27 points on 13 of 15 shooting. He shot a very high percentage and is quite a good FT shooter that you can trust. Rebounding could use some work since over his career. Just a little tidbit too, when ever he has played over 30 minutes per game, he has never failed to grab double digit rebounds. It's a deceiving stat though because he's only played 3 games lol.

    His defense can use some work but he has enough strength and bulk to go against the bigger power forwards in the league. He's kind of cocky player but we need one of those type of players. One thing for sure is, he isn't afraid.

    Overall he'd be an upgrade that could contribute immediately as starter and better than anyone that we could pick up in this draft. He's a better scorer and more efficient from mid-range to the post then any player we can pick up and has great instincts. Williams and McRoberts are not what I call great rebounders either so even in that department it's an upgrade as well. He's very efficient, generally over 50% shooting all the time and also a very solid FT shooter, good for around 75-80% from there. I've seen some of you guys put him behind Hayes which is laughable, since he's easily an upgrade.

    This would be a great trade and I'd be disappointed if it didn't happen. If he could fill out to his full potential I could see him as a Carlos Boozer or Elton Brand type player. I don't expect him become that good on our team but a solid player that can get you hopefully 14 plus points, and maybe stretching 8 rebounds a game which would be far enough. He at times could even be a good third scoring option though we need more. I think he can be our Haslem but more offense and less defense.

    I REPEAT, THERE IS NOBODY WE CAN BETTER THAN HIM WITH THE 26TH PICK! :D

    Get this deal done Morey.
     
  12. htownbball

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    funny how luther went a combined 2 for 15 against indiana in 2 games...wonder what they saw in those games...
     
  13. H-TownBBall

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    You're right. Head has lost value to us because Bonzi is going to actually play next year. However, he has pretty good value around the league. The only players I would want off Indiana are Ike and Granger.
     
  14. hooroo

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    The only other potential trade partner I can see for the Pacers involving Diogu is the Nets with Boki + their no.17 pick.

    Since the Nets have been in desperate need for frontcourt help for years and they have three max contract guys. I can see them being desperate enough to give up that much.
     
  15. rockbox

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    Larry legend does have a love affair with tall unathletic white guys like himself. Maybe he is looking at Novak. The kid is definitely a shooter.
     
  16. htownbball

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    i think theyd be a little afraid since ike's rookie contract is almost up and theyd have to resign him, whereas they can get a splitter or jason smith on a rookie contract for 3-4 more years
     
  17. kingkow

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    give up MJ or Rafer + 26 for Ike would be a good deal. Or 26 for harrison wouldn't be bad
     
  18. Sooner423

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    Harrison would be a nice backup 5, but I don't know if I would give the 26 straight up for him.
     
  19. BEXCELANT

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    LOL Aren't you glad he's not the general manager calling the trade shots?
     
  20. BEXCELANT

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    Again..too much. Not 4 players for 2. Plus no guarantee VSpan will even be back.
     

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