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Rumor: Portland-Houston trade for Tyrus Thomas?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Sooner423, Jun 23, 2006.

  1. TMac#1

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    I would think that Miles would become the 6th man, would give us excellent depth backing up T-Mac at the 3, while having Roy as your starting 2. Plus you have the wonderful bonus of getting rid of Juwan Howard. :D
     
  2. jopatmc

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    LOL, that's mcable. And yes, I was touting Howard for Miles straight up. I'd still do it.

    I'd trade Howard for just about anybody straight up as long as it wasn't Starveberry.
     
  3. m_cable

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    That's what i thought too, but then I read it again:

    It says that they're trying to swap picks in the first sentance. Then it goes into a proposal from a couple of days ago as if it's along the same train of thought. It doesn't say that they first made the proposal minus the #4 but have since reconsidered, and will include it. It's all very confusing.

    I'm telling you, Draftexpress has the most poorly worded passages sometimes. There was the same kind of confusion on whether Seattle wanted just a 2nd rounder and cash for their #10 or a future first and/or cash and a second rounder.
     
  4. jsb

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    Only problem with this possible trade is we are trading a pro in the locker room for Miles. Miles and McMillan can't stand each other in Portland, besides that to move up to #4 is worth the risk in my opinion.

    Miles doesn't have much of an outside shot and he definetly will not play PF unless there's an emergency or we're going small. But he does offer defense, length and speed. And we get the #4. I wonder though why they think we'll take Thomas over some of the SG/SF in that spot. Did Thomas show enough of a face the basket game in some of the tryouts to warrant being taken here by us.
     
  5. Pistol Pete

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    And not a word of that says #4 and Miles for #8 and Howard. Case closed.
     
  6. m_cable

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    You know what. Screw you. Don't "LOL, that's mcable" me when you are thinking the EXACT SAME THING in this thread: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=114199

    You've just hit my ignore list. Jerk.
     
  7. Sooner423

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    Yeah, I was kind of confused when I first read it too. He clarifies it on his message board here:

    http://www.draftexpress.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1717
     
  8. MrButtocks

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    Roy is a very good player. He's also being very overrated because of his versatility. I've said on this board, before he got hyped up by the media, that he'd be Bob Sura with more court vision. Is that worth a 10 or later pick? Sure. #8? Fine. But at #4 you have to be looking at a future star, not a jack of all trades role player. That's what Roy will be. Sure we need someone like that. But we could sure use a big talent a lot more.
     
  9. AggieRocketFan96

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    wow, always so much hostility in this forum. but, if I was taking sides, Ill Skillz seems to be on the right one. anyway, i'd take this deal in a heartbeat. It makes you wonder though why Portland would do this deal? I know Miles has been a disappointment overall, but he would be a major upgrade over an aging and slow Juwon.


     
  10. TMac#1

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    Sounds like he brings the same things as Ronnie Brewer, and he allows you to get a stud SG like Roy and allows you to get rid of a guy who really hurts you on the court in Juwan Howard. Miles is depth, youth and athleticsm off the bench, some body with size and speed who can run the court and finish.
     
  11. Tb-Cain

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    Here's a re-citing of the DraftExpress story on the Oregonian web site:

    http://blazers.blogs.oregonlive.com/default.asp?item=166079

     
  12. jopatmc

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    LOL, good. I've been talking about swapping Miles for Howard long before this rumor came out TODAY. Keep ignoring me after it goes down. LOL
     
  13. durvasa

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    We have 2 big-time players. What we need is a solid starter who you can depend on to score 15ppg and do a lot of other things. More than anyone, you can expect Roy to be that guy pretty much right away.
     
  14. m_cable

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    If this Portland rumor and that Seattle rumor has legs, then I'd probably go for this chain of events:

    Insist that we get the #31 in the deal with portland. Give them some cash if we need to. So it'd be:

    #4
    #31
    Miles

    for

    #8
    Howard
    Cash

    Then we turn around and get Seattle's pick with:

    #10

    for

    2007 1st round pick (top 3 protected)
    #31
    Cash

    Then we'd take Thomas at #4, Brewer at #10, and Gansey at #32. We'd pretty much fill all our needs in one draft. Just sign Mike James or Speedy Claxton with the MLE and we'd have a lot of depth and young talent to work with:

    James / Alston / Head
    Brewer / Head / Gansey
    T-mac / Brewer / Miles / Rybo
    Thomas / Stro / Miles
    Yao / Stro / Deke
     
  15. okierock

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    Not that I don't like the trade idea JHo & #8 for Miles and the #4 but people always seem to under value JHo. A health JHo 2 years ago would have gotten us by dallas in the playoffs. The only reason Miles has any value compared to JHo is because he is young. He certainly hasn't produced anything near what JHo has produced in the NBA. If we do make this trade we are going to need some serious help as far as size goes.
     
  16. H-Dub

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    YES the rockets r realizing this is their time to make a splash and go big this trade as jopatmc said will make us a chapionship team we would be better but simialar to the heat!
     
  17. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    There is a reason that Portland is willing to move down 4 spots to pick #8 in a draft that many consider 6 deep just for the priveledge of trading Miles for Howard. Miles for Howard straight up is a bad deal for the Rockets. Miles and #4 for Howard and #8 is better. Miles and #4 for Swift, Head, and #32 would be ideal, but not likely to happen. Then we could get Redick and Aldridge, Bargnani, or Thomas.
     
  18. Laozi

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    Miles is a better player then JHO no doubt, but I really can't see the Rockets bringing in a guy who has a record of putting himself before the team, especially since that goes directly against Yaos culture, not just his general belief.

    I think what the article does show is the Rockets are willing to look at trade offers that basically boil down to trading their pick for a vetern, it just has to be the right player.
     
  19. robbie380

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    I will slit my ******* wrists and the wrists of anyone else around me if we trade up to trade up to take that douche bag tyrus thomas with the 4 pick. if you can't he is a douche from his predraft interviews then I don't know what to say.

    we need shooting. we don't need undersized power forwards who are poor rebounders and that have no range. if we are taking a 6'6-6'7 player then it better be roy.
     
  20. RocketManJosh

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    I would LOVE to get Tyrus Thomas ... make it happen!
     

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