Can you imagine that with Miles taking on the best offensive player. Miles can play the 2, 3, or 4. We've got our Djerk stopper. We've got our Kobe slower downer, We've got our Manu slower downer. And not only that but we got another stud out of the draft, preferrably Roy, Bargnani, or Gay, or Morrison.
Finanlly dd makes a post i can get on board with yes swift and hayes could play the mins at the pf and roy and miles could battle for the starter!
About 10 days ago when i suggested we get rid of J Ho for Miles, I made quite a few people irate- I want this deal to happen not because I want to brag "I said So"- but we needed to get rid of Juwan and Miles is not a bad NBA player! Lett this be true! Finally we are making sensible moves
For once, anitasri, I agree with you The kind of depth with need are veterans that CAN PRODUCE. Depth in terms of rookies mean very little if we are planning to get deep in the playoffs next year. As for who I would want at the #4 pick, as much as Thomas would benefit us at the 4, I'd have to go w/ the minority here and pick Roy. As much as I would hate having Miles on this team, he could be a minutes-eater at the 4 for us along w/ Swift and Hayes. I think we can live with a 3 man rotation at the 4 IF our other positions are well taken care of. And Roy, from drafexpress' analysis, would seem to be a nice fit here since he's a player that's selfless. Even if he defers a bit much, Roy can still score when the Rockets need him to and that's a pretty good definition of what we need in a 3rd option/scorer on this team. I think making a move for the #4 for Roy and signing Mike James will be a big step into getting deeper into the playoffs. PG: Alston and James SG: Roy and Head SF: TMac PF: Miles, Swift, and Hayes C: Yao and Deke
I, for one, was one of those people. But if taking back Miles means we move up in the draft, I'm all for it. That's the key in this rumor. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and throw out Miles' off-court issues and say he's a decent player. Couple that with whoever we select at #4, I'll gladly take Miles as well.
If you could read, Einstein, you'd see that it said nothing about the details of a trade involving #4 and #8. The original poster included Miles and Howard in the deal and there is nothing in that article that mentions #4 and Miles for #8 and Howard. It says the exact details of the trade are unknown.
If Portland was trying to get Juwon and #8 for Miles and two in the 30's why would they change to Miles and #4? Putting the two together does not make sense yet you are condescendingly calling another poster "genius"? Details for getting #4 were not covered at all.
My point exactly. I hope that we do swing a trade with Portland for their pick but I have hard time believing JVG would agree to take on a knucklehead like Miles. I think Portland wants Adam Morrison since he's from that area.
Miles is a cocky nut case... that being said, he's probably one of the better up and coming new prototypical fowards that seem to be taking over now. He's long and athletic, can handle the ball, and (when he has the desire) can play amazing defense. I remember the first game of the year last season, he said in an interview that he would absolutly lock down the player he was against and have a huge game. He did exactly that. He also said that he would bring Portland into the playoffs... that never happened. If it doesnt work out, we can always trade him to a team that has expiring contracts and wants to take a chance (Like how the Warriors got Davis for nothing). I would only do this if we could get their top draft pick as well. Yao Miles/Swift Tmac Roy (or Gay) James Is athletic, tall, and can play some pretty damn good defense.
No biggie. I've been suggesting it since midseason with overwhelming amouts of abuse and bad excuses on why we should keep Juwan "Tortoise" Howard and not mess with Whino Darius.
JVG sure has been pumping up Hayes often on the radio and Breakfast with him lately... he could be throwing us hints that Hayes will get good minutes. The only way that happens is if we move Jho or swift.
It could be that I am totally uninformed. However everyone speaks of Roy as someone we MUST take if we have the opportunity. Although I would conceed that he is probably the most NBA ready player in that he has a complete game, I feel like some on this board are overestimating his value. At the 4 spot, a number of players could fall to us, and I admit that I could be totally wrong but I feel like we could get someone better than Roy. Maybe its because on film he doesn't really jump out and "wow" you like I would be used to for someone getting so much praise. Someone please though convince me because everyone seems convinced that he is the real deal, while I feel like a stubborn idiot thinking we should go for someone like Morrison, or Tyrus if we were to get the 4th pick. Please educate me, I am fairly open minded and am listening....
Of course you were talking about trading Howard for Miles straight up when the Rockets (supposedly) just declined Juwan and the #8 for Miles, #4, 30, and 31. So having us get robbed does tend to cause that effect. I don't like Miles. I don't like his attitude. I don't like his game. He can't shoot. He needs the ball in his hands to be effective on offense. And I don't think he will get along with JVG. But if we do end up trading up and getting some other pieces out of the deal, I might be able to live with it. As long as Miles can accept role as a matchup defender off the bench, then maybe things can work out.
Rumors of a trade betwen Portland and Houston are likely the reason for Thomas' visit today. Both teams are reportedly in discussions for swapping their picks (#4 and #8) but the exact details are still unknown. Further confirming the fact that Houston is serious about trading up is the fact that the Rockets will bring in Brandon Roy on Saturday as well. Update: 6:50 DraftExpress has learned that the Trailblazers are asking the Rockets to take on the contract of Darius Miles in return for Juwan Howard and the swapping of picks. A proprosal made a few days ago by Portland a few days ago involved trading Darius Miles aand the #30 and #31 picks in return for Juwan Howard and the #8 pck. That offer was reejected by Houston and the teams have gone back to the drawing board.
As much as I like the idea of moving up to #4, I really don't want Miles on this team. He is a habitual drunk who has burned bridges with three different teams and isn't liked by any of his teammates, even the easy going ones. His defense is inconsistent and his jumpshot is just horrible. Offensively we'll be playing 4 on 5 if we plan on running the offense through Tmac and Yao, which we will. Miles is a cancer with an almost untradeable contract. If he gets here, look for him to infect our younger players with his bad attitude. Juwan is terrible on the court, but he's better than Miles all things considered. Bottom line, I'd rather draft Brewer at #8 and keep Juwan than get Miles with the hope that some PF pans out at #4.
They didn't decline Juwan and #8 for Miles, #4, #30, #31. They declined Juwan and #8 for Miles, #30 and #31. Juwan and #8 for Miles and #4 is being discussed now.
Well it wasnt from me i love aquiring miles for juwan straight up so if we get this deal done im elated!
