Yea, but many of the heat players were one time allstars and big time producers on teams in the past. Miles has had many opportunities to produce out in Portland and he just has not responded. If he is ultimately a complimentary player, I have not seen the discipline from him to be able to play in a strict system like the one JVG runs. I dont know if I like this trade because Miles' most expensive years are ahead of him. Another thing is the best players that are projected to go in the top 5 aside from Roy (who I dont like that much over Brewer, Carney, and Reddick) are all forwards. With Miles, TMac, Swift, Hayes, Bogans and any of those top forwards it makes for a big log jam on the team at the 3/4. If we do aquire Miles, I do not think that we are going to be able to move those other guys to free up roster space and balance things out.
Roy, Bargnani, Gay in that order, if they're available. If not those three ... I'd at least want to get Brewer and an extra lottery pick. I just don't see how Morrison is a good fit with the Rockets. Poor defense and rebounding ... and he plays at McGrady's ideal position. Plus, he's probably too small to play PF and too slow to play SG.
If they wouldn't do it for the #8. All that for #8 seemed a little far-fetched. For #4, however, it sounds pretty reasonable. I personally would have to think about it. The Rockets severely lack depth. This could really solidify the lineup. However, it would be hard to pass up Morrison or Gay if they are there at #4.
My guys is this. We get #4 and we start taking offers. If Bargnani is there on draft day, it is going to be difficult to pass him up. You could put him on the floor with Yao McGrady Miles and James. You let Miles play the 3 on offense and the 2, 3, or 4 defensively depending on the matchups. You let McGrady have the easier of the 2 or 3 defensively and you let Miles and Bargnani sort out the other matchup. Bargnani could play some 3 defensively against slower, bigger 3's and Miles would be your best perimeter defender. It all depends on who is there. Obviously, Roy would fit just fine also. You could run with James, Roy, McGrady, Stro/Miles, and Yao. That would be fine also. But....you might get somebody to give up the farm for a chance to draft their man at #4. If Aldridge is sitting there, you may be able to get Minny to move up to #4 by threatening to take him. Maybe Boston wants him, maybe you put the squeeze on Golden State, maybe Orlando comes to the table with the #11 and Turkoglu. Any way you look at it, if we move Juwan for Darius, and get to move up to #4, we come out of this draft LOADED. Add Mike James and look out. I kept telling you guys that Juwan for Darius was the trade we needed to make. Boy Roy, I hope it goes down.
durvasa, but Morrison is a big time shooter. He's at worst the 3rd best shooter in this draft and he may be the best. Morrison is Peja with more length, youth, and spunk.
i have to agree that Morrison would be a bad fit on the rockets and I think he will be the most dissapointing player out of the top part of this draft. Roy, Gay, Redick, Brewer and Carnay are the best guys for this team, in that order.
DEPTH. Trading up might entice a trade partner who'd be willing to give up 2 picks (good picks), plus a player. You don't put all your eggs in one basket this way, and it helps the Rox add depth. If we go for one guy, and he doesn't pan out, we're screwed. There is no guarantee in free agency or trades either. Getting Mike James, or others we need, my be impossible, depending on their demands.
This trade is unbelievable for the rockets if this goes down it is one of the biggest steals ever we would move up in the draft to a high profile posistion and we would get rid of our trash for their good trash it looks like it might happen but its crazy to think portland would do this!
That's spot on. We've put all of our eggs in one basket before (Eddie Griffin). If that were to happen again, it would be devastating to the franchise.
In this draft you wont work your tail to get the #4 and turn down the chance to get Roy or Bargnani- that would be plain silly. There is a reason the Draft has hierarchy. Sure there is always a risk in sports- but trying to trade down to 12 and 15 does not ensure a greater probability either. Not sure how the picks will have a bearing on our signing the Free Agents- if we can confirm the Juwan for Miles deal and a pick for Bargnani ( or Roy) we will be a force to deal with- any serious FA who wants to win will want to be in Houston. If only we can get claxton for a back up PG or even a shot at starting!
The problem is that the chances of landing even a decent player drops drastically as you move down the draft (even within the first round). You're probably going to get more productivity from a #4 than you would from a #12 and #15 combined. Of course, adding J.R. Smith on top of that sweetens the pot (I didn't realize that you weren't intending for us to give up Luther Head as well). If we could get Brewer with one of those picks, I'd take it.
[Draftexpress] - D Miles and #4 for J Howard and #8 According to www.draftexpress.com, this potential trade has substance. That deal would be huge for Houston and a steal. Granted Miles has one year more on his contract and a larger contract than Howard, but being able to move up to get either Morrison or Roy is big. Either would be an instant contributor. Thomas could be in the mix there as well. However, I think it would be between Morrison and Roy, with a slight edge to Roy. Thoughts?
With the kind of depth that roster has with miles and roy we could afford to stick stro in their he will manage if jvg will just teach him stro is a good kid and he will be just fine.
It sound like an unbelievable deal, trading an old, slow PF for a young athlete who can swing between the two forward spots, and moving up in the draft? Miles must be pure cancer if theres any truth to this deal.
Awesome, then we only allow 82 ppg and score 79.. Just kidding.....anything to get rid of Howard, and let Swift and Hayes play the minutes at PF..... Miles would start at SF and move McGrady to the 2, right? DD
That site says nothing about the details of us getting the #4 pick. It says Portland offered Miles plus #30 and #31 for Howard and #8. If the Rockets make that deal, they need their ass kicked. Luckily they rejected it.
you got that right this is unbelievable for the rox! I kinda can put the pecies together earlier roy's agent declined to have roy work out for the bobcats stating that their was a team behind the bobcats that fit roys needs better and that he felt comfortable that they would take him that must have been the rox and this deal must be futher along than expected!
