I was just watching ESPN and they were talking about Tejada being traded. They said there is basicaly no way this is going to happen because of his salary being so big. They also said that he was having a very bad defensive season.... Oh well I guess we will have to win with what we got...
god damned Miguel Tejada is 4 for 4 tonight with an RBI and run scored and is now batting .329 with 70 RBI , PULL THE F'N TRIGGER BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE :mad
Yeah I see the logic.... Keep a prospect that has done nothing in the Majors.... Keep a strikeout, double-play grounder hitting shortstop... Keep an okay (nothing more than a 5th starter at best) pitcher.... Don't take a bona fide Superstar slugger that can change a game with one swing...oh that happens to be an okay Shortstop. Yeah...this makes a whole lotta sense!!!!
Do you truly believe the Astros turned down that deal and that is all the Orioles would want (Pence, Everett, Nieve)?
After reading this article: Link: http://houston.astros.mlb.com/NASAp...ontent_id=1575497&vkey=perspectives&fext=.jsp I would soundly say YES!!! Here is the article: Astros all right to stand pat With injured players healing, Houston can make a run HOUSTON -- In their ongoing quest to bring Houston the best team $106 million can buy, the brains of the Astros organization -- owner Drayton McLane, president Tal Smith, general manager Tim Purpura and manager Phil Garner -- met for a couple hours at Minute Maid Park on Tuesday afternoon. Details of that session were not forthcoming, but with the deadline to make trades without going through waivers only six days away, you can bet your box seats the Big Four discussed what options might be available and the wisdom in pursuing any or none of them. While there is no question a Houston offense that ranks next to last in the National League in runs could use another bat, the Astros already have made one upgrade with the recent acquisition of Aubrey Huff, and third baseman Morgan Ensberg will be returning from the disabled list soon. The pitching staff has been bolstered recently with the addition of Roger Clemens and the return of Brandon Backe. With those moves, and the return to good health of Ensberg and Lance Berkman, who did not start Tuesday's game against Cincinnati because of a groin strain, there is a case to be made that the Houston roster already is capable of getting this team back to the postseason -- and if so, why tinker further when there is really no clear upgrade available in this seller's market? More and more, the Astros are asking themselves the same thing. Sure, they probably could obtain a guy like Baltimore shortstop Miguel Tejada, but at a cost that would likely gut the team's present bullpen and future prospects. To make such a deal for a player who could be gone in two months, since he could then turn around and demand a trade at season's end, would be foolish. The Astros probably could pick up lefty reliever Damaso Marte of the Pirates or Aaron Fultz of the Phillies for the price of a couple of prospects, but would that be the best use of assets and would they really be difference-makers in the bullpen? As much as the offense has struggled and as many inconsistent performances this team has had in the first 100 games, the Astros entered play Tuesday only five games out in the Wild Card race. That's hardly an insurmountable hole for a team that usually plays much better after the All-Star break and one that hasn't been at full strength. The fans naturally are clamoring for Purpura to add offense, but fans generally are impatient. Purpura took heat for standing pat last year, and his patience was vindicated when the Astros caught fire and reached the World Series. This year's team potentially is even better than last year's, although frustrating performances like Tuesday night's 2-0 loss to Aaron Harang and the Reds may make it hard to believe that. Going the trade route might be advisable if there were compelling targets out there, but unlike two summers ago, there are no Carlos Beltrans on the market this time. This time, going with what they've got is the right move for the Astros, and apparently the course they will take. "We're really not close to anything right now," McLane said. "We have a $106 million budget -- it's the third-highest in Major League Baseball. I hope that shows to all of our fans our commitment to winning." Garner agreed lack of money isn't the problem. "I can't complain with the money we spend around here," Garner said. "We've not been pinching pennies. We have a budget that should win, let's put it that way." The Reds overspent for bullpen help because they knew they had no choice. Cincinnati could not remain in the playoff picture without the additions. The Houston situation is different. The Astros can win without any more roster additions, just as they did last year. If Clemens, Andy Pettitte, Roy Oswalt and Brad Lidge pitch like they can pitch, and Berkman, Ensberg, Huff, Mike Lamb and Chris Burke hit like they can hit, this team is good enough to reach the playoffs again. The pieces are in place if the Astros can stay patient and let the other contenders worry about Monday's deadline. "I've been in business over 40 years, and some of the best business deals you make are the ones you don't make," McLane said. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ I believe that last quote by Mclane says it all. He has cashed it in on this season.
Um...maybe this guy should catch a Washington Nats game...there's this Soriano guy that he should probably get a glimpse of
You disagree with that quote? You think the Astros would have been better off last year trading Burke for a rent-a-player? (that was the cost) What he said is absolutely true - the Astros would be stupid to feel desperate and give up too much in trade. Nothing in the article you posted suggested that the reported deal (Nieve, Pence, Everett) is anywhere close to accurate.
Yes I do becuase I also believe if we had brought in another bat last year we could have actually won the world series last year instead of getting swept. I mean crap I heard a number a couple weeks ago that we left like 48 men in scroing position during that 4 game sweep. You telling me another bat capable of atleast getting a pop fly into the outfield wouldn't have helped. Well if you don't think it is accurate then prove it isn't.
i disagree. we may have won a game or two, but the white sox were clearly the better team; if we had scored more runs, they simply would have scored more as well. besides, pitching hurt us in that series, too - clemens getting hurt in game 1; the bullpen imploding in game 2; oswalt's tough-luck inning in game 3... it wasn't stricly the offense's fault.
The White Sox were not clearly the better team. The squeeked out wins in every game. It could have EASILY gone the other way.
And I disagree with that. The pitching wasn't as good but it was good enough. And from the seventh inning on we had a chance to score either the tieing or go-ahead runs in every single one of those games. Good god how many times did we have runners on second and third with with one or no outs in that series and didn't get one run home. It was on an average of three to four times a game. Another bat could have helped period. And you can't say they would have simply scored more runs because we held par in all those games.
If we had added a bat last year, it was going to be in Left Field, where Scott & Burke were splitting time and sucking, and Burke was going to be the one sent down or, more likely, traded. Given that Burke won numerous games for us in the post-season and had one of our best bats, replacing him with the mediocre bats that were available would likely have pushed to game 5 with the Braves, and if we managed to win that, lost us 1 or 2 games in the St. Louis series that Burke won for us. The best bet that was traded last year was Wilson. You think Wilson would have done more for us in the post-season than Burke did (I believe he had a 1.000+ OPS)? Plus, we'd have lost Burke for this year and who knows how long down the road. Making a deal out of desperation is the worst thing any franchise could do.
Not to mention - if we had another left fielder, Berkman would have played first, and our 3rd best bat (Lamb, behind Berkman and Burke) would also have been benched.
gotta disagree with ya there..... we had a chance to win EVERY SINGLE GAME that series, but couldn't knock in a runner to save our lives. one more decent bat could've won us the series. no doubt in my mind. regarding the topic at hand - we NEED another bat. period. we've been one of the worst hitting teams in the majors for two years now. our (lack of) hitting practically cost us a championship. if you can get a STUD like tejada for nothing more than everett, nieve, and pence (and even hirsch) - you do it. to hell with what happens this offseason... a World Series title is worth it. besides, winning a title would probably be more than enough to make tejada stay. it's just so damn frustrating to see this team put up goose egg after goose egg, especially against guy's like Harang (who???). i say do whatever it takes to bring a title to houston.
