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Rumor (Astros asking about Tejada)

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by liamrock, Jul 19, 2006.

  1. ipaman

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    just wanted to let you guys know. i am up here in the baltimore/washington area and on the local talk shows they are talking about tejeda to the astros. this is coming from the baltimore perspective.

    so this definately has legs its just a matter of both teams agreeing on players.
     
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  3. Another Brother

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    what show?
     
  4. SWTsig

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    nice.
     
  5. Uprising

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    Awesome.....oh how I wish this trade goes through. Man, It'd be like christmas in the middle of Summer.
     
  6. Aceshigh7

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    Spread little rumor. Spread...

    If we can get Tejada without giving up Burke, Lidge, or Qualls as well as the untouchables (Clemens, Berkman, Oswalt, etc). This team will be set and WILL make the playoffs.

    I say gut the farm system if you have to. This is probably Clemens and Pettitte's last year. If were gonna win a world series it's gonna be this year. Better to live one day as a lion than a lifetime as a mouse. I would accept 4 or 5 years of losing seasons for a world series title this year.
     
  7. BigM

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    as would I. with tejada locked up for the next two years and money potentially available for pitching help, this year wouldn't necessarily have to be our last shot either. i would do that prospective trade in a second.
     
  8. Furious Jam

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    Jason Stark at ESPN chimes in: http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insider/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2522380

    Miguel Tejada, Orioles
    MARKET REPORT
    Tejada is another player we're including on this list only because the Orioles are willing to talk about him, not because we think he's on the verge of getting traded. Tejada has been heavily linked lately with the Astros, in a deal that allegedly would send shortstop Adam Everett, pitcher Fernando Nieve and hot outfield prospect Hunter Pence to Baltimore. But according to an official of one club that has been speaking with both teams, the Astros have backpedaled away from that proposal at the speed of sound. And two different baseball men told us unequivocally this week that Houston's interest in trading for Tejada now is "minimal" at best. The Tigers are known to have had some interest, too, but not if it means giving up a three-man package that includes at least one impact player (which is Baltimore's asking price). The third team still on the radar screen is the Angels. And there is enough substance there that the Orioles have been scouting the Angels' best prospects lately. But Angels GM Bill Stoneman has resisted all sorts of deals like this one in the past. So there's no reason to assume he would change his mind in this case. There's also no reason to assume that Orioles owner Peter Angelos will sign off on a Tejada trade even if his baseball execs can agree on one. So get back to us next winter on Tejada.

    Morgan Ensberg, Astros
    MARKET REPORT
    The Padres have checked out every third baseman except Brooks Robinson. But officials of two teams that have spoken with them said Monday they believe Ensberg is their No. 1 choice. Well, we'd advise they move on to Plan B (which is thought to be Atlanta's Wilson Betemit), because one baseball man who has spoken with Houston GM Tim Purpura says he would be "shocked" if Ensberg winds up getting traded. Scott Linebrink (San Diego's big chip) may be the best set-up man available. But the Astros aren't going to trade a 30-homer every-day player even up for a set-up arm. Houston also doesn't expect to re-sign Aubrey Huff, which means Ensberg still looms as their long-term third-base solution. Plus, Ensberg is still on the disabled list with a sore shoulder, and there are doubts he'll even make it off the DL before the trading deadline arrives. So if we were setting odds in Vegas, a much more likely bet is that the Padres will end up dealing Linebrink for Betemit (or for an even cheaper option, such as Cleveland's eminently available Aaron Boone).
     
  9. thephatp

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    Tejada for Everett, Pence, and Nieve.... I would do that.
     
  11. Nick

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    First of all, its likely Baltimore leaking the trade rumor updates every second... that is not the Astros style (see the Huff deal), and they would have nothing to gain by making this "rumored" deal public. Hell, the so-called White Sox trade for Soriano has probably been leaked heavily by Washington, so that teams like the Yankees and Detroit take notice, and drive up the bidding.

    It looks like the GM situation in Baltimore hasn't improved at all since Justice reported that they have 5 different guys in charge, trying to make decisions as a group. Also, the second the Astros catch wind of Baltimore leaking out the parameters of the trade... they're likely going to want nothing to do with Baltimore, as they're going to realize they're nothing but pawns (at least something was learned from the Beltran dealings).

    The Ensberg situation is pure speculation... nobody but Ensberg really knows if he's going to bounce back. The Astros could let him go for nothing and benefit (if he was a head-case), or they could keep him and reap the rewards if he was to come back healthy. Its a crazy scenario... but I don't believe he's as "done" as people suspect.
     
  12. Nick

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    Baltimore wants more... that's why they leaked actual parameters of a deal. The Astros would never do that if they were going hard after a guy who could turn their season around... too much to lose, and nothing to gain from that information being thrown out there.

    I don't blame them if they walk away and focus on other potential trades (ones that if they happen, we won't hear of until they're DONE)
     
  13. NJRocket

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    That 3 for 1 with AE, Pence and Nieve is a no brainer. Tejada is signed for a few years which makes giving up prospects more palatable...regardless of who they are. Hell, I'd even open the roof for Tejada after watching him in the HR derby.
     
  14. Major

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    But that's not the option you have. The real option is would you accept 4 or 5 years of losing seasons for an outside chance at a world series title this year? Even with Tejada, the top AL teams are clearly superior than any NL team outside of the Mets. Unlike last year, when we won on the strength of knowing that Oswalt/Pettitte/Clemens were going to pitch 6 games in a 7 games series and Qualls/Wheeler/Lidge would easily shut down teams in the 7-9th innings, all six of those guys this year are not nearly as dominant as last year. Clemens can only go 6 innings or so, Pettitte just stinks, and Oswalt is struggling a bit. The bullpen is inconsistent at best.

    So, while adding Tejada makes a WS trip more likely, you're not trading for a WS title. The Astros still need a hell of a lot of luck and have all pieces of their team play better (starting pitching, bullpen, and offense).
     
  15. NJRocket

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    I dont know if I agree with that. I like the fact that we compete year in and year out...as frustrating as some offseasons, Aprils, Junes, non active trade deadlines etc have been. Of course I want to see us win the whole thing....and last year was a major heartache getting swept in the WS...but think of the road we took to get there...it was painful...but fun.

    As a season ticket holder, I guess I am more in the camp that I want a competitive team each year...ad not just once every 4 or 5 years.
     
  16. VesceySux

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    Is he out of our price range or something? WTF? I like Huff. The guy can play several positions.
     
  17. NJRocket

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    Yeah...I notied that too and meant to comment.....wtf is up with that? that just goes to show what a crock that article is because who the hell in our camp would ever say that?
     
  18. Hey Now!

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    that seemed odd and way premature to me, too, especially with all the money this team is going to have next year.

    also odd was that the astros fled at the speed of sound from the tejada deal. if those were actually the players involved, they'd need to invent a new standard for measuring time considering how fast i'd say yes to that deal. you get tejada and keep hirsh and burke....? very definition of a no-brainer.
     
  19. MadMax

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    i think they backed away so as not to make my adam everett t-shirt obsolete. :cool:
     
  20. VesceySux

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    Aha! It all fits now! MadMax = Purpura. I knew the lawyer story was a sham! Oh, BTW, you're fat. Ha ha! Faaaaaat! FattyfattyMcFatFat. Go make a trade, fatty.
     

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