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Rumor (Astros asking about Tejada)

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by liamrock, Jul 19, 2006.

  1. NJRocket

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    I'll give ya foxsports....but rotoworld (which i actually read) is nothing but a bunch of fantasy nuts (like a lot of us) giving their opinions...no different than the guy sitting next to you at your upcoming fantasy football draft who will finish last again.
     
  2. Buck Turgidson

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    Which is exactly what he (Tim Dierkes) does for Fox Sports...cover fantasy baseball. They basically just reprint rotoworld stuff. Big $$$ in fantasy baseball stuff these days.

    Look...I have zero doubt that the Astros have inquired about Tejada. I have almost 100% doubt in the reliability of the guys floating this rumor.
     
  3. rcoleman15

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    Well thats you opinion and your entitled to it as am I. I will kindly diagree and as I said before I guess we will find out in about 11 days.
     
  4. MadMax

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    http://blogs.chron.com/baseballblog/archives/2006/07/pettitte_faces.html

    Mum's the word for Purpura on Astros trade rumors
    As a policy, Astros general manager Tim Purpura doesn't confirm or deny trade rumors. For that reason and Major League Baseball's rules against tampering, Purpura would not say if he is back in talks with Baltimore about a potential trade for All-Star shortstop Miguel Tejada.


    "We're talking to every club out there that can help us improve our ballclub," Purpura said. "To talk about specific situations, I can't."

    Asked for his priority heading into the July 31 non-waiver trade deadline, Purpura didn't mince words.

    "One, I'd like this club to perform more consistently," he said. "That's our No. 1 objective, to get this club producing and winning together. From there, obviously you have to look at what opportunities come up, what makes sense, and how do you improve your ballclub.

    "Hopefully with (Aubrey) Huff on board, we've improved ourselves offensively. The challenge offensively becomes where. If you add another piece, where do you add it? Pitching-wise, I think we're in fairly good shape (in the rotation). We have great starters. We just have to get consistently good performances out of them. I think that's the consistency I've talked about. You can't piece all the pieces together to put together a number of good ballgames in a row."

    One obstacle in the way of acquiring Tejada would be the Orioles' desire to receive major league talent in return (likely three players), so the Astros likely would weaken themselves at other spots to receive a run producer who could help the struggling offense.

    "That's the real challenge," Purpura said. "If you make a trade, I think your objective should be to improve your ballclub. If you're improving one area and hurting two other areas, then you have to question whether you're really improving your ballclub or not. You have to look at all the pieces, not just a single piece."
     
  5. Furious Jam

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    They want three major leaguers? They can have Lidge, Ensberg, and Everett, plus Jason Lane and their choice of any pitcher in our minor league system. Throw in Willy if you must. Seems like a fair deal to me.
     
  6. Gene the PIG

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    Lidge, Ensberg, & Everett .. I would do that in a second.

    Sounds drastic, but no.


    They should NOT ever get rid of Willy, IMO.
     
  7. MadMax

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    i'd get rid of willy befire i'd get rid of lidge, ensberg or everett.

    a fast guy...no pop...can't get on base...when he does get on base, he doesn't steal. no, i think i'll keep the other guys.
     
  8. Buck Turgidson

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    Agreed, he adds next to nothing to this team.
     
  9. Hey Now!

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    if baltimore would seriously consider going braindead enough to consider any of those players, i'd do the deal yesterday. the only player of any real value, imo, is lidge. i like everett, but not his bat in this line-up and not at the expense of tejada, and i'm not sold on ensberg at all. hurt all the time.

    lidge would be the only guy i'd hesitate on, only because he's been so good in save situations lately. i wish they knew why he blows up in non-save situations... bizarre.
     
  10. msn

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    Wags was the same way; at least it seemed that way.
     
  11. bobrek

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    Since I am not a closer I can't imagine what their mental outlook is, but on more than one occasion, Wagner mentioned he was not mentally prepared to pitch and it affected him. The most (in)famous occasion was when they blew the 7 or 8 run 9th inning lead agaist the Pirates about 5 years ago. Mike Jackson came in to get some work in the 9th, got a couple of quick outs and before you knew it, Wagner had to come in, and they ended up losing on a grand slam (Giles?).

    After the game, Wagner admitted he never thought he'd get into the game and wasn't mentally prepared. If there is that big of a mental issue, then perhaps the non-save situation comes into play.
     
  12. ryan17wagner

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    He didn't know about it. He read it from ESPN and reposted. mlbtraderumors is the worst "rumor" site ever. They're never right about anything.
     
  13. liamrock

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    ESPN Insider now has the Tejada to Houston rumor at the top of its' rumblings...no real new info

    Miggy possibly on the move?
    Jul 20 - Though Astros GM Tim Purpura didn't come out and say it, indications are that Houston is interested in acquiring Tejada.
    "One, I'd like this club to perform more consistently," Purpura said in a report in the Houston Chronicle. "That's our No. 1 objective, to get this club producing and winning together. From there, obviously you have to look at what opportunities come up, what makes sense, and how do you improve your ballclub.

    It's believed the Orioles are looking for three players, including ones with major league experience.

    Orioles owner Peter Angelos has little interest in trading his All-Star shortstop, according to a report in the Los Angeles Times. He told the Baltimore Sun he would have to be blown away by an offer.

    An executive told the Sun that the Orioles would want a top-of-the-rotation starter and high-level prospects for Tejada.

    The Angels apparently made a run at Tejada in June and hoped to move him to third base. But the Orioles reportedly wanted right-hander Ervin Santana, second baseman Howie Kendrick and reliever Scot Shields in return.
     
  14. liamrock

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    I'm thinking it would have to be Hirsch or Backe/Lane/Everett/Pence
     
  15. Hey Now!

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    how does that match what they supposedly want?:
    hirsh and pence, ok. AE if they demand a SS in return, but backe and lane?

    my guess is burke, hirsh and pence would get it done; it's possible buchholz could replace burke with maybe a lower level prospect thrown in.
     
  16. Major

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    I'd be hesitant to include Burke in the deal. I know Burke's stats are a small sample size, but if this is the type of thing we can expect from him, his OPS is higher now than Tejada's has ever been. He's not the HR hitter obviously, but he has the all-around speed/average/quality at-bats/etc. And the 2B position is just as difficult as SS to get offense these days and Burke is cheap for several more years. If you can get Tejada without Burke, you have solid offense at two of the most difficult positions to fill for the next 3 or 4 years, which would be fantastic.
     
  17. Hey Now!

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    agreed. trade proposers have a tendency to view everything from their team's angle, which is why garbage like lane keep getting so much run - don't want 'em on our team, but, of course, they'd be GREAT (!) on someone else's team.

    but taking a moment to view it from the orioles' perspective, they'd be foolish not to want burke. burke is probably the most useful commodity on the ML roster right now beyond, obviously, berkman.
     
  18. Major

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    Yeah - I totally agree. But if I were the Astros, I would say no to that. Simply because, yeah, it makes us a ton better offensively at SS this year, but it also puts Willy T back in CF, so it makes us a lot worse too. I just don't think we significantly upgrade the lineup, and at the cost of two top minor leaguers, I think we have to get more improvement in the major league team. I would offer another minor leaguer in exchange - which may not be enough for the Orioles, but if that's the case, then no deal (in my opinion).
     
  19. Hey Now!

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    wait, wait... i'm an unabashed fan of burke's, too, but you don't think tajeda/taveras is a signifigant upgrade all across the board over AE/burke?
     
  20. TMac#1

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    I really think its interesting that these rumors just will not go away. All offseason and still now. With all of this smoke, there must be fire somewhere. Although I'd hate to give up Burke, Tejada is a very productive hitter.
     

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