rezdawg - Amen. djunior - you shouldn't be so flippant when it comes to crash's post. Good points, and you sound like a chump trying to dismiss them. I'm sure the team would have done just as well with Dickerson and Harrington instead of Francis. I'm sure every GM in the NBA agrees with your assessment.
heh, another Griffin was a mistake thread. Yes, we know. We've had a million threads about that already.
A) djunior = troll B) djunior = moron I woulda voted for 'B' until he wanted to give Bradley respect, as if he compares favorably to Yao at all. Gotta be a 'A'
\ he made mine a while back, and I would like to thank the guys who were kind enough to not quote that troll in their responses. to the guys that did...please. please don't quote the trolls. It makes the ignore list useless.
Many did not want Yao Ming! They wanted the Rockets to draft another. Eddie still can be all that he can be, if he gets help and advice to reorganise his life.
I remember some Rockets fans back then wanted to use their #1 pick on some Dukie named Jay Williams. Williams busted his rookie season, and is now facing career-ending injuries. I wonder if Rudy T had thought about taking Willaims at #1.
maybe I'm being ignorant here, but I always thought that drafting the players was the GM's job and that the coach normally has some input, but the GM is the one who makes the call to David Stern
Plus the advice of scouts. Rudy's advice shouldn't mean much when it comes to college players, it's not his job to evaluate them, thats the scouting department. Rudy might say he wants a player who does certain things so they will fit his playbook better, but its not for him to decide who that person is and what abilities they have. Thats the job of the scouts and GM.
This year the Rockets end up making a trade for some unprotected picks in next year's draft but just barely miss the playoffs. Our problem was post players due to injuries and other things. When the lottery comes we have a shot by trading our picks to draft a potential star, someone along the lines of a new Carmello Anthony is available if we trade our picks. This guy has that kind of potential. This kid is young, and his skills can be molded into exactly what the Rockets want. He's only had one year of college. He seems quiet, he's had one isolated incident where he got into a scuffle with another student at his college, but he's eager to turn over a new leaf. DJunior - If you don't draft that player you should be fired. That was similar to the situation the Rockets had when drafting Eddie. In hindsight it wasn't a good deal, but just looking at the facts we knew at that time that trade was a great one. Stop using knowledge that you have now and applying to a situation in the past in an effort to trash someone.
djoke Unless you have a clue of what you are posting about, I would suggest staying away - you are just setting yourself up to get run and probably banned. Oh yeah and your post blows.
If Eddie was such a stud, how come he fell from the concensus #1 pick? If the Rockets hadn't initiated the trade, how far might he have fallen? If I remember the story correctly, the Rockets never expected Griffin to fall that far and were suprised to find him there and were probably surprised to find NJ amenable to working a deal. NJ should know more about EG than anyone since he played college ball just up the road. It sounds to me like the Rockets were unprepared for what transpired and I hope they learned never again to take the unexamined path. Yeah, I thought they were lucky when it happened, but I'm just a fan. This is their profession and they should know more than I (we) should.
I didn't think anyone believed he was a lock at #1. I do think people believed he would go higher than he did, and some people believed he could go #1. As for not taking deals that have been researched and background checks done, and all that would mean missing out on a lot of deals. If something comes up on draft day that's spur of the moment and unexpected and the team has a policy against doing anything that hasn't been researched frontwards and backwards we could miss out on unbelievable talent. I agree that you want to research everything you can, but there are times where you have to be flexible and able to make decisions on the fly. Yes, sometimes you get burned, but anytime you put your faith in a player it's a gamble. If it was the same situation all over again, I would think we'd have to go for it. Anytime there is a shot at a diamond in the rough it's a bigger gamble to not get that player.
OK., zjunior, how about a homework assignment? We'd like you to do a comparative analysis of all 29 teams and their draft picks over the past 10 years. Based on statistics, contribution to team success, and intangibles (I.E. did the player(s) get injured), we would then like you to present a comprehensive evaluation paper on how the Rockets have fared against the competition on a 10-year scale. Then, and only then, will we be allowed to support any of your claims as credible. If you refuse to do so, you will be required to attend our Rockets 101 training session. Class dismissed, junior.
whoever blames rudy for drafting griffin is utterly stupid. he saw potential, WE saw potential, and the franchise then acted accordingly. don't tell me y'all REALLY thought richard jefferson was a better player coming out of college than griffin was.
