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Rudy Fernandez being taken out on a stretcher

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by WhoMikeJames, Mar 9, 2009.

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  1. A_3PO

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    It's a drawback of being flipped in the air by a dirty player.
     
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    Ariza is not on a Bruce Bowen level of being dirty habitually
     
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    I think Ariza was just pissed because they were down by 30. Still though, not a reason to do that to somebody.
     
  4. DaDakota

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    Which is why context has to be taken into consideration......

    Ariza should be suspended for however many games Rudy is out.....

    DD
     
  5. A_3PO

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    You didn't need to fix anything. I never said Ariza was Bruce Bowen. Bowen has honed his skills and is a master. But I've seen Ariza make several dirty frustration plays in his career. He is a dirty player. This isn't his first wild hack at somebody.
     
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    I barely watch the Lakers and I've seen him flagrantly hack a player more than once.
     
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    while he was trying to make the block, when you swing that hard, at a guy on a breakaway, in a 30 point game, everything that happens after that is on you. "oops, sorry i leveled you and gave you a concussion and had you carted out on a stretcher" doesn't really work. definitely needs a couple of games.
     
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    A real dirty play would have been a blatant shove in the back or clothes-lining the guy. Ariza made a conscious effort to make a play on the ball and unfortunately got alot of Rudy also.

    I'm not saying I don't feel bad for Rudy, but I'm not ready to call Ariza dirty for trying to make a hustle play even when the game was out of reach. Dude was showing he still cared about the game. Frustrated? Sure. Blatantly dirty with intent to purposely hurt someone? I don't think so IMO.
     
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    I don't even think it was worthy of a flagrant two. You don't base the foul on how hard a guy lands. You base it on the play that the defender made.
     
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    Watch the replay, he goes HARD with his swipe, and THROUGH Rudy's head.

    It was clearly a Flagrant 2.......

    Anyone defending him is NUTS.....these are NBA players, they know EXACTLY what they are doing.

    Ariza knew, and he made a frustration foul......he should be suspended.

    DD
     
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    Nearly every time a thread on a particular flagrant foul comes up, there are always at least a couple of people who don't get it. This one is no different. I'll repeat: This is NOT the first time Ariza has swung hard in frustration. I think from now on, the NBA may view it as a pattern for him. This is about strike 4.
     
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    You must be just as stupid as Barkley with that comment, Rudy was in mid air, Ariza is throwing a haymaker while Rudy is defenseless in the air, it doesn't take a genius to know that he's going to do 360s
     
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    just saw it on Fox Sports The Final Score.

    OUCH.

    btw, ODOM did infact come off the bench during the shoving match.
     
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    That was clearly a flagrant foul. Ariza had no chance of stopping rudy. Rudy was taking flight and Ariza swung his arm at Rudy's head.
     
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    And knew EXACTLY what he was doing.....that is Bruce Bowen dirty.

    DD
     
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    Man, I keep watching that video (first time I've seen it) and I just don't see where some of you are so sure it's a definite flagrant 2.

    Clearly he took a hard swipe, but it just seems like a frustration swipe at the ball. Careless enough and hard enough for a flagrant, I agree, but I don't know that I'd call it a 2.
     
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    My heart goes out for Rudy and kudos for the impassioned pleas for Ariza's head but I still stand by my comments. Whateva.
     
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    jesus....I thought I had a lot of posts! You're up to 50k now?! :eek:
     
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    GOING FOR THE BALL MY ARSE !!!

    He is going for his head.....the ball is a lot higher and Ariza is not reaching UP.

    DD
     

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