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Royce White refuses assignment to D-League (UPDATE: Rockets suspend him)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Fawkward, Dec 29, 2012.

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Do you want the Rockets to give up on Royce White?

  1. No. He's a talent that can help us win down the road.

    156 vote(s)
    21.6%
  2. Yes. He's not worth it. Cut him from the team.

    566 vote(s)
    78.4%
  1. Arthurprescott2

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    http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2012/12/30/a-letter-to-royce-white/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

     
  2. ERC

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    Obviously no one knows the details besides the parties involved, but I don't think the Rockets would lose. All the Rockets need to proof is that they've provided all necessary accommodation required by the law (CBA, ADA, etc.), the fact that White finds it unsatisfactory doesn't change the fact it has been provided.

    Let's say the issue is White wanting playing time in the NBA, not D-league, and his doctor supports it. If the Rockets own doctor's evaluation indicated playing in D-league serves the same purpose as playing in the NBA, I don't see how the Rockets would lose.
     
  3. dobro1229

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    Im talking about the agreed upon plan the Rockets had in writing a few weeks ago that Royce agreed to. Step 1 was to start working out at the TC with Rockets personnel. Royce had been doing so up until last night when he was assigned. Im not talking about the plan, or direction of the entire franchise, but the terms that were agreed upon between Royce and the Rockets that were supposed to have been bringing the two parties together shortly. Either the Rockets are not sticking to their agreed upon plan(hard to believe since it was in writing and was signed off on by the NBA & NBPA) or Royce decided at the last minute to cause... yet another stink.
     
  4. yinanization

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    Totally, he should be banned, who knows, he might decide to shoot up the locker room...
     
  5. dobro1229

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    IMO, the way I read out his "statement" its almost as if its a threat to the league as if he might do something if the league doesn't oblige him. I know thats probably not what he's going for directly, but he really made a poor choice in trying to link his case to that of one of the most tragic happenings in the US in recent years.

    Im sure you are halfway joking when you say that(or at least I hope you are). I hope that people here dont honestly think anyone with OCD could just snap at any moment. Royce linking himself to that tragedy certainly isn't helping the stigma though by making it look like a threat that he could pop off at any moment.
     
  6. UHcat

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    Question I've had is how did Ohio State manage him!??
     
  7. rocketblood713

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    Why dont the cut his ass already this dudes getting on my nerves and he hasnt even played yet lol
     
  8. dobro1229

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    Iowa State.
     
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    It is obvious nothing has really changed according to Royce.... him working out is not a big deal after all.... getting hopes up
    He is still saying the same exact things about the organization not capable of giving him what he wants

    1. He might be lying
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    2. The org has not done anything new just doing what they felt was right, what was best in their INTEREST

    there was NO AGREED UPON PLAN, all PR, we still don't know 100 percent what is really going on.

    IDK for sure what is going on behind the curtains but I can imagine two factions within the FO. One trying to accomodate him and one that wants him gone ASAP.
     
  11. daywalker02

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    With this recent dick move I guess 99 percent has given up on him
     
  12. RioFan

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    From Dec 27

     
  13. dchoye

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    Enough of this nonsense.
    If this was happening at any other workplace.
    His contract would be voided and he'll had to support himself with short term medical disability until he's ready to go back to work
     
  14. dobro1229

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    I dont have the Tweets in front of me(would have to look through 100's of them), but just a couple weeks ago Royce himself said that the "plan" was hung up, and awaiting approval that him and the Rockets had agreed upon. If it was just PR spin, there is no way Royce would go along with that kind of spin to help them look good.

    Still plan or not, I do not believe the Rockets could have given Royce any major surprises at this point. Both parties had to know that this was what the Rockets were going to do. Either this is the Rockets forcing Royce to go to the D-League knowing he wont go, or this is Royce being Royce making a stink at an inopportune moment.
     
  15. ERC

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    I took a quick glance at all the tweets to White and it seemed like the disapprovals outnumber his #AnxietyTroopers by a landslide.

    I don't know what he's thinking (nor do I pretend to understand mental illness), but if he wants to promote mental health awareness, he's losing his platform. I also can't help but feel that he's doing those with mental issues a disservice, because people could now be weary that they may "pull a Royce White".

    Kind of sad - I was all rooting for him to succeed when we first signed him... :(
     
  16. I am a Donut

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    "The purpose of a doctor's confirmation is to ensure that health decisions are made in the sole interest of health and not conflicted with business."

    People with normal jobs do not have the luxury to separate health and business. It's all life. They have to learn to cope with their issues and improve their health while doing their job.
     
  17. The_Yoyo

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    I think all of us here wanted White to succeed in the NBA for various reason - the primary being because it would help the Rockets out -- secondary and probably just as important it would give hope to those with mental illnesses and disorders that they can succeed and become successful in professional sports as other fields.

    White may have not killed his dream (which appears to be making money while "imagineering" at home) but he has killed the dreams of may potential athletes. Even if its not in the NBA - teams from other sports will look to this entire ordeal and use our mistake to learn from and shy away from these kids in the future. That to me is be biggest let down in this whole thing. I don't know how White can look himself in the mirror knowing what he has done to the people he so eloquently professes to be helping.

    Considering the absolute lack of facts that White has detailed out despite his cries of "transparency and honesty" leads me at least to believe that the Rockets have gone above and beyond what their end of the contract or deal is and all White is trying to get is guaranteed playing time - to raise his 'celebrity' status OR just again get paid but not play.

    I think that if the Rockets were in breach of anything -- rather than Royce taking to issuing statements on twitter or through his publicist he would have contacted the NBPA and they would have issued an official statement trying to gain compensation on Royce's behalf from the Rockets or the league. The fact that nothing has come from them in a situation that screams that they would be involved leads me to believe that its just Royce being a crybaby/spoiled little brat/******* -- whatever you want to call him. The NBPA has never been shy to support a player's cause publicly before in the past so there is no reason for them to be so quiet right now unless they know that they would have a lost cause/no chance to win.

    Given that this has been a pattern of behavior for Royce I cannot expect him to change - the bad part is that it seems he has been used to getting his way all his life or at least recently at Iowa State. This is not helping Royce White in his battle at all and if he isnt willing to take his medication -- how can any medical professional be willing to say that the Rockets are wrong for assigning him to the D-league and how can Royce say that the Rockets are not providing a safe atmosphere etc. when he isn't trying to help himself?

    Something that Patrick Patterson tweeted earlier today after this statement came out -- screams that White isnt even trying to be receptive to others even around him:

    http://twitter.com/pdpatt/status/285470941667004416#


    While I believe that a contract cannot be voided - I hope the team goes back to fining him (again something that the NBPA did not object to) for insubordination and conduct detrimental to the team. If its about money or playing time for him -- take the money away -- the Rockets are doing their best to give him playing time, but in the D-league first.


    I mean instead of having an employer-employee type relationship it seems the Rockets need to play the role of Parent to white's spoiled brat and punish him. It seems thats the only way he'll learn otherwise the path he is going on will only be harmful to him as the years go on and the Rockets have no monetary or contractual obligations to him. No other team -- in any league will want to take that chance. Can you imagine overseas where money is far more important and teams cant just throw away cash - how Royce approach them after what he has done to the Rockets?


    I applaud Daryl and Les and the rest of the Rockets' front office for acting very professional throughout this whole ordeal despite having their names dragged through mud at any time possible. It goes to show that we do have a first class organization.


    And yes - White is fast approaching if not surpassed Pippin level animosity from myself.
     
  18. ERC

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    Exactly - this was the biggest disappointment for me too. :(
     
  19. daywalker02

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    See that is what I mean by not 100 percent sure....
    There might be several voices within the org and I guess Les has the final say....

    there might be sort of a prototype of a "plan" for him in place to shut him up for a while and I guess Morey and staff are just not crazy to NOT have an exit plan.
    White got wind of this and is convinced Rockets are not all behind him or he just played along for a while and his mental disorder, anxieties are acting up again

    current status
    RW is still where he is now
    Org deciding what to do with him, still has an exit plan, but hope is waning

    You are talking as this situation was very easy to resolve which is not.
    On the contrary.
     
  20. Takeoff

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    it sickens me when i think that right now, royce white is making more money than chandler parsons.
     

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